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Re: [Xen-users] Why Xen will deprecated? Is it to old?

To: Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Why Xen will deprecated? Is it to old?
From: "Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)" <space.time.universe@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:59:49 +0800
Cc: xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, jean-baptiste.favre@xxxxxxxxxx, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro <thiagocmartinsc@xxxxxxxxx>, Nick Couchman <Nick.Couchman@xxxxxxxxx>
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If we don't use any specific Linux distribution like Fedora, Debian,
Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, we could still customize or DIY our own linux
system according to the instructions here at the Linux from Scratch
online book http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/

And then we could download the pv_ops/pvops dom0 kernels and Xen
hypervisor and compile ourselves.

Anyone forsees any problems with this approach?

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On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 05:47:53PM -0200, Thiago Camargo Martins Cordeiro 
> wrote:
>>    I guess the Debian team will not continue to port forward the old fashion
>>    Xen patches (from the 2.6.18...) but, when the mainline Linux came with
>>    dom0 pv_ops included by default, the Debian team will just enable the dom0
>>    option...
>
> Oh, and one more clarification about this. Upcoming Debian stable
> release ("Squeeze") will have Xen dom0 using the forward-ported patches.
>
> See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2009/10/msg00613.html
>
> Debian's plan is to remove the forward-ported Xen dom0 patches after
> Squeeze, and then use upstream Linux pv_ops dom0 support.
>
> -- Pasi
>
>>    ;-)
>>    Cheers!
>>    Thiago
>>
>>    2009/10/20 Pasi Kärkkäinen <[1]pasik@xxxxxx>
>>
>>      On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 06:43:30AM -0600, Nick Couchman wrote:
>>      > >>> On 2009/10/20 at 03:42, Jean Baptiste FAVRE
>>      > <[2]jean-baptiste.favre@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>      > wrote:
>>      > > Hello,
>>      > > As I understand the mail, it just seems that specific Dom0 kernel
>>      > will
>>      > > disappear in next Debien stable release.
>>      > > For the time being, when you want to build a Debian Dom0, you have
>>      > to
>>      > > install a specific "Xen-enabled" kernel.
>>      > > Starting Squeeze, all these functionnalities will be intergrated in
>>      > the
>>      > > default kernel.
>>      > >
>>      > > Regards,
>>      > > JB
>>      > >
>>      > > Alexandr R. Ogurtzoff a écrit :
>>      > >> Hello,
>>      > >>
>>      > >> I'm confused why Xen is deprecated in the next Debian release, does
>>      > it
>>      > >> mean Xen dying? What is alternative? KVM?
>>      > >> I've heard RH also is going to promote KVM only in a future
>>      > releases.
>>      > >> Can someone elaborate what does it mean?
>>      > >> Thank You in advance.
>>      > >>
>>      > >>
>>      [3]http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.announce/1407
>>      > >>
>>      > >> " xen dom 0
>>      > >> +++++++++
>>      > >>
>>      > >> This feature will be included in the squeeze kernel release subject
>>      > to
>>      > >> ongoing stabilisation work. The feature will be marked as
>>      > deprecated
>>      > >> and will not appear in future releases. "
>>      >
>>      > As far as RedHat going KVM, yes, that's the virtualization technology
>>      > that RedHat has decided to pursue.  I don't know if that means that
>>      Xen
>>      > will be completely unavailable in RedHat, or if it just means that KVM
>>      > will be the one they push by default in new installations.  If you go
>>      to
>>      > the [4]linux-kvm.org page, you'll notice the Redhat logo in the bottom
>>      > corner - they purchased the company Qumranet, which is the primary
>>      > funder of KVM development.
>>      >
>>
>>      Redhat will support Xen (including dom0) in RHEL5 for the whole
>>      lifetime.. that's until 2014 or so.
>>
>>      RHEL6 will have Xen domU support.. I think. So you can run RHEL6 Xen
>>      domUs on RHEL5 dom0 (or some other dom0).
>>      -- Pasi
>>
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>>
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>>    1. mailto:pasik@xxxxxx
>>    2. mailto:jean-baptiste.favre@xxxxxxxxxx
>>    3. http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.announce/1407
>>    4. http://linux-kvm.org/
>>    5. mailto:Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>    6. http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
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