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Re: [Xen-users] Xen without the X 
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Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 
Shane D. Johnson wrote:
 Dude, you're doing package management and dependency management 
*MANUALLY*? For cripes sake, why not use a reasonable package 
management system like apt or RPM?
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 
Shane D. Johnson wrote:
 Ahh. Not an unusual approach, but resolving the compilation 
dependencies sounds quite painful.
Nico,
I am trying to build a minimal server with Apache and Qmail(Most 
likely) in separate domains with only the programs and services 
necessary to run these programs on each domain.  I am doing this to 
keep the disk space small (for performance and backup), the 
performance high , and the security threats down (only have running 
what you need). 
Thanks
Shane
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 
Shane D. Johnson wrote:
 Why do you want to do this? Unweaving the X requirements for the 
VNC or SDL graphical console support sounds like a great deal of 
pain.
Hello,
   I need some help please.
I want to compile xen-3.1.0 for use on a server that doesn't 
have X11 or Xorg installed.  I would like to control the servers 
through SSH and Telnet (unless you have a suggestion for 
something better (more Secure)).  I wouldn't be using VNC or 
Console(Unless I have to).  I have made the kernels and now only 
need the tools to control xen.
   I have searched the internet and asked for help before(And 
seen others ask) but can't seem to find the Documentation or help 
I need to only compile the needed components.  If anyone could 
point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.    If I 
need to take this to a different list please let me know. 
Thank you
Shane
 
 
Do not use telnet. Spending all that work on security, then using 
telnet, is like picking a 37-character mixed case password and then 
taping it to your monitor because you can't remember it: it rather 
defeats the purpose. 
It may be possible to compile, then rip out the X installation over 
the objections of the Xen dependencies. Have you tried that?
 
Nico,
Not sure if this is what you mean or not but here is what I have 
tried..... I did the make world (Which failed of course.) I then did 
a make linux-2.6-xen0-config CONFIGMETHOD=menuconfig etc. and got the 
kernel to build successfully.  I then did cd into each directory and 
down as far as I could to make each tool I wanted individually and 
the make would always fail with the X dependency problems.  I am 
going to try it again tonight to see if I can get it work work this 
way.  Is there a way to turn off the building of programs I don't 
want ?  (ex. --without-console --without-vnc)
 
I've not tried to turn off the various console access utilities: you'd 
have to read the autoconf and Makefile options to see what is available.
 
Nico,
I appreciate your help on this, I have gone through both the files 
mentioned and can't find a way to do it without X.  I will keep digging 
though.  Can anyone tell me why I get a build fail for xenctrl on some 
of the binaries?
   As far as the package management,  I am doing it manually so I can 
see everything that goes into the system. I am using this as a learning 
experience. 
Shane
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