Re: [Xen-devel] Xen like VirtualBox

[John Haxby <john.haxby@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 15/11/16 11:17, Jason Long wrote:
> You said a Red Hat employee and this company like KVM not Xen.

That makes no sense.  You're denying what it says on the
virt-manager.org web site as well as denying what it says in the
description of the RPM.   Even the Red Hat RPM for virt-manager says
that it works with Xen (I'm looking at the RHEL6 source and it says
"administering virtual machines for KVM, Xen, and QEmu").

You can choose to avoid anything to do with Red Hat because of their
preference of KVM over Xen, but, as the English saying goes, that's
cutting your nose off to spite your face.

jch



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> 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:16 PM, John Haxby <john.haxby@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> On 14/11/16 14:05, Jason Long wrote:
>> Thank you but the problem is that "virt-manager" is for Redhat and Redhat 
>> don't like Xen anymore because of KVM. Another problem is that a program 
>> like VirtualBox has a nice GUI but virt-manager not.
> 
> virt-manager is also available for Fedora and Fedora doesn't have a
> problem with Xen.
> 
>> $ dnf info virt-manager
>> [...]
>> Summary     : Desktop tool for managing virtual machines via libvirt
>> URL         : http://virt-manager.org/
>> License     : GPLv2+
>> Description : Virtual Machine Manager provides a graphical tool for
>>             : administering virtual machines for KVM, Xen, and LXC. Start, 
>> stop,
>>             : add or remove virtual devices, connect to a graphical or serial
>>             : console, and see resource usage statistics for existing VMs on
>>             : local or remote machines. Uses libvirt as the backend 
>> management
>>             : API.
> 
> virt0manager.org is registered to an individual (admittedly, I believe,
> a Red Hat employee).   According to the home page it's available for
> Fedora, Debian, Gentoo and OpenBSD.
> 
> You could go ahead and do your own version of a GUI but I'd suggest that
> fixing the Xen interface and pushing any needed changes to libvirt would
> be better.
> 
> jch
> 
> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 14, 2016 5:22 PM, Dario Faggioli 
>> <dario.faggioli@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2016-11-10 at 18:20 +0000, Jason Long wrote:
>>
>>> I mean is a nice GUI like VirtualBox.
>>>
>> It's certainly possible, and it would be nice. It's "just" that no one
>> has stepped up and started to do it. :-)
>>
>> Personally, I think that, rather than developing something from
>> scratch, it would be a lot better to use virt-manager
>> (https://virt-manager.org/), or other similar front-ends.
>>
>> About virt-manager, it is built on top of libvirt, and Xen support in
>> libvirt has improved a lot during the past couple of years. Thath means
>> a bunch of things and features actually work already.
>>
>> It would be really nice and useful if someone could actually try and
>> use it with Xen, and report here and to the libvir and virt-manager
>> communities what is missing/not working.
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> Dario
>>
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