Re: [Xen-devel] [Xen-users] xen forum

[Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:00 +0100, Ian Murray wrote:
> 
> >>  My own experience is that posts (at least from me) are regularly
> >>  missed/ignored on the devel list, including a signed patch,
> > 
> > Do you have a link to that patch? As explained in the submission
> > guidelines http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Submitting_Xen_Patches things do
> > fall through the gaps but it is the submitters responsibility to ping
> > and resend as necessary.
> 
> I starting going through the process of resubmitting (the process
> having completely changed)

The process (send a signed-off-by email to xen-devel) hasn't changed in
forever. Some of the tools which are convenient (but not required) to
use have changed recently and therefore some of the advice might have
changed.

>  but then had a problem with git blocking changes to xendomains file.
> I asked a question about the issue on xen-dev which - guess what - got
> ignored. So, there is only so much one can do. :)
> 
> Original patch:-
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2011-06/msg01092.html
> 
> Follow up question in an attempt to resubmit:
> 
> http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2013-03/msg01408.html
> 
> Both ignored. Gave up.

FWIW the answer is that .gitignore is wrong and using -f would have been
fine if you couldn't see where .gitignore was wrong (and
fixing .gitignore would have been fine if you could see where).

> > Why would you expect to be more assured of a reply to your mails if a
> > bug tracker had automatically logged them?
> 
> I am not assured of a reply, but surely the idea of a tracking system
> is that bugs don't get forgotten about. In my case, I would have
> raised an issue against xendomains, hopefully stated wants seems to go
> wrong and either it sits there and is dealt with, batted back to me
> for more info, or willfully ignored. But never should it just get
> "lost in the cracks".

Unfortunately without someone whose full time job it is to triage bugs
and keep the bug tracker under control all of the bugs which get batted
back and never followed up or which get ignored eventually overrun the
system and make it useless for anyone who would actually want to use it.
At this point you bug is just as likely to get lost in the mess as it is
to get lost on xen-devel.

> I'll shut up about it now, because whoever decides these things will
> do what they want, anyway.

We are working on a system which will allow us to record email threads
as being relevant and useful to track. We believe this will suit our
workflow better and avoid the need to have someone spend a lot of time
bug wrangling on the track.

This is why people are being encouraged to post their bugs to the list.

Ian.


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