Re: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04)

[Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx>]

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:14:15PM +0200, Sander Eikelenboom wrote:
> Hello Pasi,
> 
> Yes i also found out that creating a bridge from debian networking scripts is 
> more reliable for me.
> So i now have a bridge with all xen guests (xen_bridge), which is routed with 
> iptables with my eth0 and eth1, together with some portforwarding for 
> specific services.
> 
> Is there allready a wiki for networking related "best" practices stuff ?
>

Not really.. want to start one? :)

-- Pasi

> --
> Sander
> 
> 
> Monday, June 21, 2010, 8:24:43 PM, you wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:30:37AM -0700, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
> >> > From: Ian Jackson [mailto:Ian.Jackson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > 
> >> > Dan Magenheimer writes ("RE: [Xen-devel] xend doesn't start with xen-
> >> > staging tip (on ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04)"):
> >> > > "Your networking to your Xen guests which always worked has
> >> > > suddenly stopped working when you've upgraded to the latest
> >> > > Xen bits.  You asked on xen-devel what to do to fix it
> >> > > and got the reply: 'You need to set up your own network
> >> > > to go through a bridge now'.  Do you know now exactly what
> >> > > trivial things you need to do?  If not, do you know exactly
> >> > > where to look for documentation to tell you what you need to do?"
> >> > 
> >> > People who are running production systems on xen-unstable bits need
> >> > more help than we can sensibly give them.
> >> 
> >> True enough.  But to clarify, we're not talking about those people;
> >> we're talking about *developers* updating xen-unstable bits on an
> >> otherwise completely stable base distro.  And we're talking about
> >> xen-users installing xen-unstable on their systems to see if
> >> it fixes a bug or adds an important feature they are waiting for.
> >> "Oops, networking is broke, I guess I'd better roll back"...
> >> which means fewer people testing and giving feedback on xen-unstable.
> >> 
> >> > As I say we'll make a song and dance about this in the 4.1 release
> >> > notes, announcements, etc.  Another related substantial change will be
> >> > the switch away from xend in the default configuration, and it makes
> >> > sense to make both of these changes at the same time.
> >> 
> >> Historically in Xen, "song and dance" has been more like
> >> "hum a bar offkey and quickly twirl around" :-)  I hope
> >> this change at this release is a bit more.
> >> 
> 
> > The xen bridge setup magic has failed for *many* people, there are people
> > complaining about it frequently on ##xen on irc.
> 
> > So imho it's good to get it fixed, even by removing the code :)
> 
> > -- Pasi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Sander                            mailto:linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 

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