I have the same problems you have with product in general. It is quite
unfortunate, and in Windows only environments, I use Gigabyte for those
reasons. That said, how is the longevity of Intel boards? I know I built 18
P4s with Intel boards well over 5 years ago and the only boards that have died
were definitely killed by bad power supplies. I don't know whether or not
Intel makes a board that meets your needs (I don't know what AM3 refers to),
but if they do, it might be worth considering. I know you said only one match,
but I don't know if a specific supplier had only one match or if you used the
Intel MBSG (which doesn't show all boards by any stretch of the imagination,
but would certainly show Intel ones).
[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DEMAINE
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 08:38
To: Ady Deac
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] use PCI VGA card on domU, and questions about USB
On 30/06/10 07:02, Ady Deac wrote:
> All the AMD CPUs (I guess except for the lower end Semprons, but I
> guess those also apply) from the last (at least 4-5 years) have
> virtualization caps. It is shown as "svm" in the CPU flags:
> Offcourse, the BIOS must support it too. And I guess you need to
> either buy another mobo (see Gigabyte or Asus), or hammer your mobo
> producer to release a BIOS to support it. What is your mobo anyways?
That's what I forgot to tell about (had so many bugs to fix and report
yesterday, my mind went wrong).
I can not change it, because it's the only one I can use for my needs
(ATX not micro, AM3, integrated VGA, two large PCI-E ports = only one
My BIOS says nothing. I tried to start xen with all required options,
and, after boot, it says options I Asked are disabled (i was following
the URL I was given earlier): PCI pass throught is not supported.
I am tired fighting with manifacturers. I'll just shutup.
> I'm pretty sure you DO NOT want to have a Gigabyte or Asus board if
> you are trying to do PCI Passthrough.
I am pretty sure you do not want any other manif if you want your MB to
last 5 to 8 years, and not look at your capacitors burn out in less than
a year (or many alternative low level issue).
> I have personal experience with ASUS and trying to get them to fix a
> problem with their BIOS is nearly impossible even when you have
> Windows and they will talk to you
I know. That's why I will shut up.
It does not work. Full stop.
I think only Apple is taking care of features *AND* long term stability.
Any way, the problem is not Gygabyte, Asus, AMD, Intel, Microsoft or
Apple; the root problems are:
- modern worldwide consumer mentality (buy, use, throught away).
99% people don't care when what they buy do not do what they paid for.
>o_/ DEMAINE Benoit-Pierre (aka DoubleHP) http://benoit.demaine.info/
If computing were an exact science, IT engineers would'nt have work \_o<
"So all that's left, Is the proof that love's not only blind but deaf."
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