RE: [Xen-users] 32bit or 64bit dom0?

["Ian Tobin" <itobin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Im sold on the 64bits J

 

From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Wilcoxon
Sent: 26 January 2010 20:02
To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] 32bit or 64bit dom0?

 

Many people also forget about the performance boost on CPU intensive apps by running 64 bit mode, even if you don't need extra memory. This can be a 5%-15% depending on the application. This includes the OS. The reason is 64 bit mode not only allows 64 bit memory access and registers, but it also doubles the number of registers available.

I would always recommend to use 64 bit whenever possible unless there is a pressing need to stick with 32 bit.

S.W.

On 1/26/2010 11:05 AM, Grant McWilliams wrote:

 

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 08:30:40AM -0800, Grant McWilliams wrote:
>    On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Pasi KÀrkkÀinen <[1]pasik@xxxxxx>

>    wrote:
>
>      On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 06:22:38PM +0700, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:

>      > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ian Tobin <[2]itobin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

>      wrote:
>      > > Thanks for the info guys, ive been playing with 3.4.2 on 32bits but
>      im thinking for the future it would be worth having 64bits for things
>      like win2008R2 as this is 64 bit only.
>      >
>      > If Windows is your only concern, IIRC 32bit xen can run 64bit HVM
>      > domUs just fine. What does "xm info" say about caps?
>      >
>
>      I think you need 64b Xen hypervisor to run 64b guests,
>      but dom0 Linux can be still 32bit PAE.
>      > Personally I use 64bit xen, dom0, and domU so it would be easier when
>      > I need to assign one of them with memory over 4GB, since using 32bit
>      > PAE has some performance penalty.
>      >
>
>      I think there was some benchmarks about this recently and the
>      PAE performance hit wasn't very big..
>
>      Anyway, it's better to use 64b nowadays.
>      -- Pasi
>
>    That depends one whether you consider (up to) 20% worth considering! I'd
>    be willing to change for 5%.
>

>    [3]http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616&num=1
>

Hmm.. did you paste wrong url? That url only has 32b vs. 64b?

Here's 32b vs. 32b PAE benchmark:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae

Although that benchmark must have something wrong with the 32 vs 64 numbers..
the different can't be THAT big.

"In the fourteen tests for this article we did not find using Ubuntu's 32-bit PAE kernel
to have a dramatic performance impact whether it be positive or negative.

Granted, we were using just 4GB of system memory that is common to many desktops,
but if using 8GB, 16GB, or even a greater memory capacity the performance
penalties are perhaps higher. "

-- Pasi

Yes I did! Thanks. Here try this.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_32_pae&num=1

Grant McWilliams

_______________________________________________

Xen-users mailing list

Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users

_______________________________________________
Xen-users mailing list
Xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users