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Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are

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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu-xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
From: Paul Schulze <avlex@xxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:05:44 +0100
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Hi Boris,

I am currently thinking of upgrading to Ubuntu Intrepid myself, or backporting xen-3.3 until an official backport is made (which seems to be in progress, from what I read). However, the biggest problem at the moment seems (as you already mentioned) to be the kernel. Even though all other packages that were part of Ubuntu in the past are included in the new version as well, the changelog of the xen-3.3 source package states, that users are on their own to find a suitable kernel. Do you (or anyone else) know, if the Ubuntu Hardy Dom0 kernel works with Xen and if so, does it support use of the new features (f.e. like PvSCSI, amongst others), or are there problems to be expected?



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Am 02.11.2008 um 15:17 schrieb Boris Derzhavets:

I have installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server on bare metal and successfully ran:-

# apt-get install ubuntu-xen-server.

    It installed several packages on system . Now i can see files
/boot/xen-3.3.gz, /etc/init.d/xend, /etc/init.d/xendomains, but no
xenified kernel gets in. Attempt to use vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-server, obviously , fails with system panic. I do remember recompiling procedure for Xen 3.2.1 hypervisor on CentOS 5.2 . New xen.gz kept working with old CentOS 5.2 xenified kernel:-

http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=204:recompile-xen-321-for- centos-5&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379

It was based on :-
rpm -i http://bits.xensource.com/oss-xen/release/3.2.0/centos-5.1/ xen-3.2.0-0xs.centos5.src.rpm

   Actually , review by Grant MacWilliams :-

http://grantmcwilliams.com/index.php? option=com_content&view=article&id=229:install-xen-33-x8664-on- centos-5-the-easy-way&catid=97:xen-howtos&Itemid=379

also put in work xen-3.3.gz with old xenified kernel from RH repositories.
This port i have been using many times with minor vncviewer's issues.

I wonder would it be able to backport this package from Intrepid to Hardy ?

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu- xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
To: deshantm@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:28 AM

Sorry, for stupid question. Are you saying that install ubuntu- xen-server on Itrepid Server will bring to system xen-3.3.gz ,vmlinuz-,initrd- ? In other words, would it work like cloning via "hg" Xen 3.3 repository to local host and making xen build with 2.6.18 kernel ? Actually, allows to avoid painful procedure of apt-getting packages required for
successful build:-  gcc,build-essentials,zlib,libncurses, . . .
Through my comprehension Xen Hypervisor requires xenified kernel, ramdisk,
and daemon xend to run on the system.

Otherwise, i don't understand what exactly mean words :-
"Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support"

Thank you.

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Todd Deshane <deshantm@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] What packages ubuntu-xen-server & ubuntu- xen-desktop are up to on intrepid
To: bderzhavets@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 12:41 AM

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Boris Derzhavets <bderzhavets@xxxxxxxxx>
> I've recently installed Ubuntu Intrepid Server PV DomU at Xen 3.3
CentOS 5.2
> Dom0. Details here (if needed) :-
> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/111103/index.html
> Running Synaptic Manager at DomU i've noticed packages mentioned above
> available
> for install . I don't intend install ubuntu-xen-server on DomU , but
> Intrepid Server running on bare metal will potentially allow (?) to
> ubuntu-xen-server
> ( with all
dependent packages).
> Per recent message from Todd Deshane, i've learned , that there is no
> option to install
> Xen 3.3 on Ubuntu Intrepid Server to create Dom0, unless to make a port
> your own :) Apparently a couple of months is not enough for forward
> Xen 3.3 to intrepid kernel, but i am still confused about packages in
> Synaptic. What they are supposed to serve ?

Just to clarify, Intrepid apparently does have Xen 3.3 hypervisor support.

The dom0 kernel, just like with Fedora 9,10, is missing from Intrepid as both Fedora and Ubuntu decided to wait for upstream linux xen support [1,2]
in order for them to again include a dom0 kernel. A pv_ops-based dom0
kernel should soon be supported by the xen developers and be put into
mainline Linux

[1] http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps


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