Re: [Xen-users] VMWare vs. Xen, is the conflict by VMware deliberate?

[Luciano Rocha <strange@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:49:35PM +0100, Stefan de Konink wrote:
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> Nico Kadel-Garcia schreef:
> > Evan Lavelle wrote:
> >> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
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> >>> So, I tried running VMWare Workstation on top of a Xen enabled Dom0.
> >>> And VMWare promptly started up with a "You're running a Xen
> >>> Hypervisor! Bad sys-geek, no biscuit! We're taking our start-up tool
> >>> and going home, p-b-b-b-b-b-b-t-h!"
> >>>
> >>> Is this a well-founded refusal to start on their part, perhaps due to
> >>> kernel behavior conflicts? Or is this an anti-competitive move, to
> >>> avoid being able to run VMware Workstation on Xen Dom0's and force
> >>> people to select VMWare only? 
> >>
> >> No idea. But, I'm curious. What makes VMWare think that anyone's going
> >> to take them seriously after seeing error messages like that one? Do
> >> they actually review their code before selling it to anybody?
> >>
> >> Evan
> > 
> > Well, the "bad sys-geek, no biscuit" and "p-b-b-b-b-t-h" were me
> > elaborating on it, I'll admit. I'm sorry, my colorful sense of humor
> > seems to hve confused you: I'll try to restrain myself on this list.
> > 
> > The bit about refusing to run with a Xen hypervisor in place was very
> > clear, however. It might be justified, but the refusal to even try to
> > start up seemed excessively harsh. I'm happy to accept a warning that
> > what I'm about to attempt with my software is a bad idea, but I want a
> > reference to exactly what the problem is or at least the ability to try
> > it, anyway, after insisting on the warning.
> 
> 
> Are you able to run VMWare in Qemu and/or if your host runs under HVM?

The vmmon module didn't run under Xen. It complained about couldn't
start vm86 mode or some such, last time I tried (almost a year ago).

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