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RE: [Xen-users] RE: Virtualization over CLIENTS/SLED

To: "anant" <ANigam@xxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] RE: Virtualization over CLIENTS/SLED
From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:13:30 +0100
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of anant
> Sent: 23 January 2007 14:56
> To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Xen-users] RE: Virtualization over CLIENTS/SLED
> 
> 
> An what about the OpenWBEM/CIM ?
> At present it is only included with SLES, would that be 
> included in desktop
> versions or not..?
> Installing it seperately is quite cumbersome and its not practical for
> layman....
> My question is wether in coming future Novell or any linux 
> distro would
> include XEN and openWBEM/CIM with in their install like it 
> does in SLES10.
> Any idea about this...?

I have NO idea what SuSE/Novell, RedHat or any other distributor are
doing, or what they plan to do (and even if I did know, it could well
change before it's actually out there anyways). 

My point is more that the Xen being distributed with some product, and
not with other products, is not a technical decision, but rather a
"productification decision". Just like when Ford builds a car, they
decide that certain models come with Air-condition as standard, others
have it as an optional extra, and in other models, you can't get air-con
at all. It's a DECISION, not that you can't technically make it happen. 

To me, CIM and such are definitely targetted to the Server market, as
there's really no need to have management tools like that for desktop
machines that aren't connected to a server, so you supply the tools with
the server. Again, this is not a technical decision, but rather a
packaging/product decision. Why have a server and a desktop
distribution, if both contain the same things?

--
Mats
> 
> Thanks for you reply...
> 
> 
> Petersson, Mats wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of anant
> >> Sent: 23 January 2007 14:03
> >> To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [Xen-users] Virtualization over CLIENTS/SLED
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi all,
> >> Will virtualization/xen gonna be possible over client side as 
> >> i guess till
> >> now it is included only with SERVER OS.
> >> Any comments guys
> > 
> > What do you mean? Is it possible to run Xen on a 
> non-Server-based OS:
> > Yes, of course.
> > 
> > It just so happens that Xen is more of a server-type 
> product, so it's
> > more likely to be included with the CD's (DVDs), aka distribution of
> > Linux, of a server type product than it is for a desktop product. 
> > 
> > This in turn means that if you want to combine Xen with a desktop
> > distribution, you may have to build your own Xen-ified 
> Linux kernel and
> > your own Xen hypervisor, and update your system manually (using the
> > ./install.sh inside the dist directory of the Xen build, 
> for example). 
> > 
> > But Xen itself will run on (almost) any Linux-based system where the
> > kernel is 2.6.x. 
> > 
> > --
> > Mats
> >> 
> >> Thanks
> >> -- 
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