> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marco
> Sent: 31 May 2006 07:25
> To: jerry@xxxxxxx; xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool - or
> "AMD availability" ;)
>
> You are right. They are said to be on stocks for a couple of days now.
> But to tell the truth, at least here they aren't. Yes, there
> is the FX.
> The price alone tells you "hands off!". And yes, there is the
> 3500+ and
> 3800+ (single core). But who will use that? If you wanted to habe a
> 3500+ you could and get the Stepping E's as well. The
> _interesting_ CPUs
> - named the X2 ones for server application use - are not
> delivered to the stores before 02.06.06 - what means another
> week waiting ;)
>
> As for your "no new motherboard" - I would be carefull there...
> basically they CAN use their old motherboard. Only changes
> needed are the other socket and more data lines to the memory.
> So there _could_ be problems.
As far as I'm aware, the new Socket AM2 is NOT compatible with older
socket 939 (and of course not 754).
Of course, a 3500+ in Stepping F would only be useful if you either want
virtualization support, or want to use DDR2 memory. Both of these are
new features in the new revision of the processor, and not present (at
all) in the older stepping.
--
Mats
>
> However, my X2 is already preordered. Can't wait getting my
> hands on them testing the HVM-capatibilities (what was the
> major reason buying that thing XD )
>
> Regards, Bigfoot29
>
> > Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 17:55:24 +0200
> > From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool
> > To: "Jerry Amundson" <jerry@xxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry
> >>Amundson
> >>Sent: 27 May 2006 16:53
> >>To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool
> >>
> >>On Sat May 27 2006 08:26, Marco wrote:
> >>
> >>>>I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines...
> >>>>http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors
> >>>
> >>>I have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing...
> >>>You can safely add "All AMD Athlon64 CPUs in a AM2 Socket
> (Stepping
> >>>F)" to the list. They rare all intend to have Pacifica on board.
> >>>
> >>>(Note: Athlon64, not Semperons. They are lacking exactly that
> >>>feature)
> >>
> >>I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision.
> >>I'd rather leave it TBD, and only include processors available for
> >>sale currently.
> >>Although the statement above is safe, as a new user I'd find it
> >>misleading as I might believe my current AMD Athlon64 CPU in a AM2
> >>Socket (Stepping F) to be HVM-capable, only to end up with
> "Error: Not
> >>an HVM capable platform, we stop creating!"
> >
> >
> > They are available for sale now - ok, so your local Fry's
> or PC World
> > may not have any in stock, but they are available to buy from AMD.
> >
> > AMD's press-release:
> >
> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~1086
> > 05
> > ,00.html
> >
> > I managed to find at least one web-site that advertise the FX-62
> > processor (and several other AM2 processors) for sale, so
> it appears
> > that it is possible to order them from retailers.
> >
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?E
> > dp No=2207290&Sku=CP1-AM2-FX62&SRCCODE=CNETFEED&CMP=OTC-CNETFEED
> >
> > I have no connection with the Tigerdirect company, it's purely a
> > result of googling for FX-62, which is one of the AM2 processors. I
> > have no clue whether this is a good, bad or ugly retailer...
> >
> > All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have
> > SVM (please don't use Pacifica, as that's the internal
> code-name, and
> > it is under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are
> > "AMD Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the
> > latter shortened to SVM.)
> >
> > As the processor requires a new motherboard, there's less
> likelyhood
> > for the trouble that some people have had with Intel
> systems where the
> > enabling of VT doesn't work or isn't available... As far
> as I know,
> > there are no Rev F processors that doesn't have
> virtualization, aside
> > from the Sempron models (which is one of the
> differentiating factors
> > between Sempron and the more expensive models - not sure what else
> > besides the obvious cache size differences... Although I can't find
> > any list of differences and there's currently no AM2
> docuementation on
> > the Web-site, besides the simple compare products pages,
> which don't
> > git much details, unfortunately).
> >
> > --
> > Mats
>
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