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Re: [Xen-users] [Fwd: XCP - extreme high load on pool master]

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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] [Fwd: XCP - extreme high load on pool master]
From: Denis Cardon <denis.cardon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:22:33 +0200
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Hi David

This console problem I can empathise with.

Accessing serial consoles via VNC doesnt really make sense to me.

I'd like some XCP plugin that can publish consoles via ssh/telnet and
xenconsole.

I guess disabling the vncterm and restricting the ssh connection (/etc/passwd shell or ssh key exchange restriction?) you should be able to have someone to use xenconsole on the xenserver, provided you go on the right hosting server in the pool.

I have never tried it, but the vncterm/xenconsole part is documented in the xenserver docs.

http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/4.1.0/1.0/en_gb/sdk.html#id2553339

Hope this helps.

Denis


And cloud customers could login and get some simple out of band access
to their linux based vms.




On 21 July 2010 21:51, George Shuklin <george.shuklin@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:george.shuklin@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Well... I can accept idea of 'high load' for master, but my main concern
    is the problem of single thread. Most of CPU time used by single xapi
    process, so, if I slightly increase number of hosts and VM on hosts (for
    example, 40 VM per host, 16 hosts will do about 640 VM per pool) and if
    xapi will not be able to serve every request in single thread... I don't
    know what will happens but I don't like it already.

    About console problem...

    After few tests with http(s) tunneling I stops at simple ssh tunneling
    from host localhost to my machine localhost (I connect by using -L
    switch of ssh and use xvncviewer localhost:59xx).

    One other problem is detection of port number for certain VM... Right
    now I use some hack like xe vm-list uuid=... params=domid; ps aux|grep
    (this domid);netstat -lpn (this pid) - but it not very accurate and not
    very scriptable...



    В Срд, 21/07/2010 в 16:39 -0400, Vern Burke пишет:
     > Thousands of VMs on a single XCP pool? It's just my opinion of course
     > but I wouldn't try to run 100:1 (or worse) virtualization ratios
    unless
     > you're running 12 cores (and a ton of memory) or better in a box.
     >
     > Keep in mind that the pool master is doing a ton of work for the
    entire
     > pool, which explains why its load is higher than the slaves. In my
     > cloud, I generally reserve the pool master for admin work rather than
     > running production workloads on it.
     >
     > The reason for this is that there's still an ongoing bug in XCP's
     > developers console that you can only connect to the console of a VM
     > that's running on the pool master. Try to connect to a VM that's
    on any
     > of the slaves and you get just a blank white window.
     >
     >
     > Vern Burke
     >
     > SwiftWater Telecom
     > http://www.swiftwatertel.com
     > Xen Cloud Control System
     > http://www.xencloudcontrol.com
     >
     >
     > On 7/21/2010 4:13 PM, George Shuklin wrote:
     > > Good day.
     > >
     > > We trying to test XCP cloud under some product-like load (4
    hosts, each with 24Gb mem and 8 cores)
     > >
     > > But with just about 30-40 virtual machines I got an extreme
    load on dom0
     > > on pool master host: LA is about 3.5-6, and most time are used
    by xapi
     > > and stunnel processes.
     > >
     > > It's really bother me: what happens on higher load with few
    thousands of
     > > VMs with about 10-16 hosts in pool...
     > >
     > > top data:
     > >
     > > Tasks:  95 total,   3 running,  91 sleeping,   0 stopped,   1
    zombie
     > > Cpu(s):19.4%us,42.1%sy,0.0%ni,35.8%id,  1.3%wa,  0.0%hi,
      1.0%si, 0.3%st
     > > Mem:    746496k total,   731256k used,    15240k free,
      31372k buffers
     > > Swap:   524280k total,      128k used,   524152k free,
    498872k cached
     > >
     > > PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+ COMMAND
     > > 17  -3  315m  14m 5844 S 52.3  2.0   5370:41 xapi
     > > 17  -3 22524  15m 1192 S  8.3  2.2 875:16.18 stunnel
     > > 15  -5     0    0    0 S  0.7  0.0  54:28.78 netback
     > > 10 -10  6384 1868  892 S  0.3  0.3  22:03.14 ovs-vswitchd
     > >
     > > dom0 on non-master hosts are loaded about 25-30% each.
     > >
     > >
     > >
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