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RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation 
| To: | Avi Kivity <avi@xxxxxxxxxx>, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx> |  
| Subject: | RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation |  
| From: | Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@xxxxxxxxxx> |  
| Date: | Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:29:22 -0700 (PDT) |  
| Cc: | Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@xxxxxxxxxx>,	kurt.hackel@xxxxxxxxxx, the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@xxxxxxxxxx>,	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <gcosta@xxxxxxxxxx>,	Xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,	Keir Fraser <keir.fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Linux,	zach.brown@xxxxxxxxxx, Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx>,	chris.mason@xxxxxxxxxx |  
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| Is there any way for an application to conclusively determine
programmatically if the "fast vsyscall" pvclock is functional
vs the much much slower gettimeofday/clock_gettime equivalents?
If not, might it be possible to implement some (sysfs?)
way to determine this, that would also be backwards compatible
to existing OS's that don't have pvclock+vsyscall supported?
Thanks,
Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avi Kivity [mailto:avi@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:33 AM
> To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge
> Cc: Dan Magenheimer; Jeremy Fitzhardinge; Kurt Hackel; the arch/x86
> maintainers; Linux Kernel Mailing List; Glauber de Oliveira Costa;
> Xen-devel; Keir Fraser; Zach Brown; Chris Mason; Ingo Molnar
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall
> implementation
> 
> 
> On 10/14/2009 05:00 AM, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >
> >> So it's broken or disabled when that assumption is wrong?  We could
> >> easily fix that now.  Might even reuse the pvclock structures.
> >>      
> > Well, the kernel internally makes more or less the same 
> assumption; the
> > vsyscall clocksource is the same as the kernel's internal 
> one.  I think
> > idea is that it just drops back to something like hpet if the tsc
> > doesn't have very simple SMP characteristics.
> >
> > If the kernel could characterize the per-cpu properties of 
> the tsc more
> > accurately, then it could use the pvclock mechanism on native.
> >    
> 
> It does - that's how kvm implements pvclock on the host side.  See 
> kvmclock_cpufreq_notifier() in arch/x86/kvm/x86.c.
> 
> -- 
> I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
> signature is too narrow to contain.
> 
> 
>
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RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, (continued)
RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Dan Magenheimer
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5]	x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation,
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Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock:	add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Glauber Costa
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation, Jeremy Fitzhardinge
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Chris Mason
RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Dan Magenheimer
Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add	vsyscall	implementation, Avi Kivity
RE: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/5] x86/pvclock: add vsyscall	implementation, Dan Magenheimer
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