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Re: [PATCH v6 00/51] x86: Try to wrangle PV clocks vs. TSC
- To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@xxxxxxxxxx>, Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@xxxxxxxxxx>, Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@xxxxxxxxx>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@xxxxxxxxxx>, "K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Wei Liu <wei.liu@xxxxxxxxxx>, Dexuan Cui <decui@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Long Li <longli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ajay Kaher <ajay.kaher@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Alexey Makhalov <alexey.makhalov@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxxxxx>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Juergen Gross <jgross@xxxxxxxx>, Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@xxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxx>, John Stultz <jstultz@xxxxxxxxxx>, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@xxxxxxxxxx>, Broadcom internal kernel review list <bcm-kernel-feedback-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@xxxxxxxxxx>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@xxxxxxxxxx>, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@xxxxxxxxxx>, x86@xxxxxxxxxx, linux-coco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kvm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-hyperv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, virtualization@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Kelley <mhklinux@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@xxxxxxx>, Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@xxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 19:36:22 +0100
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On Thu, 2026-09-10 at 10:59 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 06, 2026, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > The primary goal of this series to fix flaws with SNP and TDX guests where a
> > PV clock provided by the untrusted hypervisor is used instead of the secure
> > TSC that is controlled by trusted firmware.
> >
> > The secondary goal is modernize running under KVM. Currently, KVM guests
> > will
> > use TSC for clocksource, but not sched_clock. And Linux-as-a-KVM-guest
> > doesn't
> > support paravirt enumeration of the TSC/APIC frequencies, even though QEMU
> > provides that information by default.
> >
> > The tertiary goal is to clean up the PV clock code to deduplicate logic
> > across
> > hypervisors, and to hopefully make it all easier to maintain going forward.
> >
> > The quaternary goal is to clean up the TSC calibration code, which was made
> > stupidly hard to follow by hypervisor code mixing in with the native
> > calibration routines, instead of being implemented as a pure alternative.
> >
> > Note, the VMware and Xen changes still probably should get acks from those
> > maintainers, as my understanding of what they're trying to do may be flawed.
>
> This (thankfully) still applies cleanly. What can I do to help move this
> forward?
Nudge Thomas to spot that this is guest-side and we want him to pick it up, I
guess?
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