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Re: [PATCH] char: rename CharBackend->CharFrontend
- To: Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@xxxxxxxxx>, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@xxxxxxxxxx>
- From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 17:33:35 +0200
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- Delivery-date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 15:34:08 +0000
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On 10/21/25 16:27, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
I always thought the "frontend" was the device the guest
saw (the 16650 UART or whatever). invocation.html has bits
talking about "virtio hvc console frontend device" which
seem like they also use that terminology.>>
Isn't it
- backend -> host adapter
- frontend -> implementation used by guest
The frontend is whatever talks to the backend. From QEMU's point of
view it's the CharFrontend (which consists of a Chardev*, i.e. the
backend, and some data identifying a specific frontend), from the user
it could be /dev/hvc0 or whatever.
Sort of, but I think it's too restrictive to name them after "host"
and "guest", as they also have different purposes than strictly VM
components/side usage.
I believe talking about backend and frontend is usually the preferred
convention.
Yes, I agree.
Paolo
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