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Re: [PATCH 13/22] x86: FRED enumerations


  • To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:34:55 +0200
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  • Cc: Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@xxxxxxxxxx>, Xen-devel <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 08:34:59 +0000
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On 14.08.2025 20:45, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 14/08/2025 2:19 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 14.08.2025 13:20, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 08.08.2025 22:23, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> --- a/xen/include/public/arch-x86/cpufeatureset.h
>>>> +++ b/xen/include/public/arch-x86/cpufeatureset.h
>>>> @@ -310,7 +310,10 @@ XEN_CPUFEATURE(ARCH_PERF_MON, 10*32+8) /*   
>>>> Architectural Perfmon */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(FZRM,         10*32+10) /*A  Fast Zero-length REP MOVSB */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(FSRS,         10*32+11) /*A  Fast Short REP STOSB */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(FSRCS,        10*32+12) /*A  Fast Short REP CMPSB/SCASB */
>>>> +XEN_CPUFEATURE(FRED,         10*32+17) /*   Fast Return and Event 
>>>> Delivery */
>>>> +XEN_CPUFEATURE(LKGS,         10*32+18) /*   Load Kernel GS instruction */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(WRMSRNS,      10*32+19) /*S  WRMSR Non-Serialising */
>>>> +XEN_CPUFEATURE(NMI_SRC,      10*32+20) /*   NMI-Source Reporting */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(AMX_FP16,     10*32+21) /*   AMX FP16 instruction */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(AVX_IFMA,     10*32+23) /*A  AVX-IFMA Instructions */
>>>>  XEN_CPUFEATURE(LAM,          10*32+26) /*   Linear Address Masking */
>>> I'd like to note that we could long have had this if my long-pending 
>>> emulator
>>> patch had gone in at some point.
>> Actually what I further have there, and what in the context of patch 15 I
>> notice you should have here is
>>
>> --- a/xen/tools/gen-cpuid.py
>> +++ b/xen/tools/gen-cpuid.py
>> @@ -278,7 +278,8 @@ def crunch_numbers(state):
>>          # superpages, PCID and PKU are only available in 4 level paging.
>>          # NO_LMSL indicates the absense of Long Mode Segment Limits, which
>>          # have been dropped in hardware.
>> -        LM: [CX16, PCID, LAHF_LM, PAGE1GB, PKU, NO_LMSL, AMX_TILE, 
>> CMPCCXADD],
>> +        LM: [CX16, PCID, LAHF_LM, PAGE1GB, PKU, NO_LMSL, AMX_TILE, 
>> CMPCCXADD,
>> +             LKGS],
>>  
>>          # AMD K6-2+ and K6-III processors shipped with 3DNow+, beyond the
>>          # standard 3DNow in the earlier K6 processors.
>> @@ -347,6 +348,9 @@ def crunch_numbers(state):
>>          # computational instructions.  All further AMX features are built 
>> on top
>>          # of AMX-TILE.
>>          AMX_TILE: [AMX_BF16, AMX_INT8, AMX_FP16, AMX_COMPLEX],
>> +
>> +        # FRED builds on the LKGS instruction.
>> +        LKGS: [FRED],
>>      }
>>  
>>      deep_features = tuple(sorted(deps.keys()))
> 
> Hmm.  Yes, but normally this is part of guest enablement.

Hence why I would have wanted the emulator patch to long have gone in.

> Having now done the Xen work and concluded that we don't actually need
> LKGS, I'm rethinking the linkage here.  It's probably the right thing to
> do in practice, but probably needs a bit more in the way of
> justification.  "built on" doesn't quite cut it IMO.

The comment can be adjusted (or dropped). Im "builds on" is quite adequate,
as without SWAPGS you won't really have a way to get things working in an
OS without having LKGS available. In Xen we're in a slightly different
position ...

Jan



 


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