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Re: [PATCH 6/7] xen: Swap find_first_set_bit() for ffsl() - 1


  • To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 10:13:37 +0100
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On 14.03.2024 19:51, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 14/03/2024 6:47 pm, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>> On 14/03/2024 2:30 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 13.03.2024 18:27, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>>> --- a/xen/drivers/passthrough/x86/iommu.c
>>>> +++ b/xen/drivers/passthrough/x86/iommu.c
>>>> @@ -641,7 +641,7 @@ struct page_info *iommu_alloc_pgtable(struct 
>>>> domain_iommu *hd,
>>>>      if ( contig_mask )
>>>>      {
>>>>          /* See pt-contig-markers.h for a description of the marker 
>>>> scheme. */
>>>> -        unsigned int i, shift = find_first_set_bit(contig_mask);
>>>> +        unsigned int i, shift = ffsl(contig_mask) - 1;
>>> The need for subtracting 1 is why personally I dislike ffs() / ffsl() (and
>>> why I think find_first_set_bit() and __ffs() (but no __ffsl()) were
>>> introduced).
>> It's sad that there are competing APIs with different bit-labelling, but
>> the optimiser does cancel the -1 with arch_ffs() (for at least x86 and
>> ARM that I studied in detail).
>>
>> I firmly believe that fewer APIs which are fully well defined (and can
>> optimise based on the compiler's idea of safety) is still better than a
>> maze of APIs with different behaviours.

I agree here. The anomaly (as I would call it) with ffs(), though, is what
makes me wonder whether we might not be better off introducing ctz() and
clz() instead. Unlike ffs() their name says exactly what is meant. This is
then also a clear hint, for Arm and RISC-V at least, what underlying
instruction is used. Plus there are matching builtins (unlike for e.g.
fls()).

>>> But what I first of all would like to have clarification on is what your
>>> (perhaps just abstract at this point) plans are wrt ffz() / ffzl().
>>> Potential side-by-side uses would be odd now, and would continue to be odd
>>> if the difference in bit labeling was retained. Since we're switching to
>>> a consolidated set of basic helpers, such an anomaly would better not
>>> survive imo.
>> I honestly hadn't got that far yet.  I was mainly trying to dis-entangle
>> the existing mess so RISC-V wasn't making it yet-worse.
>>
>> But yes - it warrants thinking about.
>>
>>
>> I was intending to do the fls() next then popcnt().   The latter has
>> quite a lot of cleanup wanting to come with it, and is more
>> architecturally invasive, and I know I've got a years-old outstanding
>> piece of work to try and do popcnt more nicely on x86.
>>
>> I have wanted ffz() in the past.  I think I just went with explicit ~
>> because I didn't want to continue this debate at the time.
>>
>> However, I (very much more) do not want a situation where ffs() and
>> ffz() have different bit-labellings.
>>
>>
>> There are no builtins, and having now studied the architectures we care
>> about... https://godbolt.org/z/KasP41n1e ...not even x86 has a "count
>> leading/trailing zeros" instruction.
> 
> Hopefully obviously, I meant ones here.   My point is that the compiler
> emitted code always has a NOT in it somewhere.

Right; I was about to ask but then remembered there was another mail from
you on this thread.

>> So using ffs(~val) really will get you the best code generation
>> available, and seeing as it halves the number of bitops to maintain, I
>> think this is the best tradeoff overall.
>>
>> I intend to put ffz() and __ffs() into linux-compat.h and leave them
>> there to discourage their use generally.

I'm okay with this plan. As per above I'd prefer if ffs() moved there, too.

Jan



 


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