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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2] IOMMU: make DMA containment of quarantined devices optional
 
- To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx>, "Durrant, Paul" <pdurrant@xxxxxxxxxx>
 
- From: Jürgen Groß <jgross@xxxxxxxx>
 
- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 15:29:36 +0100
 
- Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx>, Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@xxxxxxxxxx>, Julien Grall <julien@xxxxxxx>, Wei Liu <wl@xxxxxxx>, Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@xxxxxxxxxx>, George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>, Paul Durrant <paul@xxxxxxx>, "xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ian Jackson <ian.jackson@xxxxxxxxxx>, Roger Pau Monné <roger.pau@xxxxxxxxxx>
 
- Delivery-date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:29:58 +0000
 
- List-id: Xen developer discussion <xen-devel.lists.xenproject.org>
 
 
 
On 13.12.19 15:23, Jan Beulich wrote:
 
On 13.12.2019 14:53, Durrant, Paul wrote:
 
Since *not* having the 'sink' page allows a guest pull off a host DoS
in the presence of such h/w, security is surely increased by having it?
 
 
host            device          result w/o sink         result w/ sink
good            good            good                    good
good            babbling        good                    good
wedge on fault  good            DoS (runtime)           DoS (runtime)
 
 
I guess the DoS cases here are due to malicious guest actions?
 
wedge on fault  babbling        DoS (runtime/late)      DoS (runtime only, 
silent)
 
 
And why is the sink page resulting in a silent DoS here?
Juergen
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