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Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] tboot: remove maintainers and declare orphaned



On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 03:08:07PM -0400, Rich Persaud wrote:
> (cc Intel and tboot-devel)
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
> Thanks for your interest in documenting the status of maintenance for Intel 
> TXT support in Xen.  Intel TXT and Xen are deployed in production today by 
> OpenXT and QubesOS for boot integrity.  Xen was a pioneering adopter of DRTM, 
> almost a decade ago, but mainstream enterprise computing is now catching up 
> with the May 2019 release of Windows 10 SystemGuard.  It would be nice to 
> avoid "orphaning" one of Xen's competitive advantages in 2019.

Thanks for the feedback! Just to be clear, this is not a plan to
remove the tboot code from Xen in any way, it's just a IMO needed step
in order to reflect the current maintainership status of the code, and
likely a way to move forward, please see below.

> > On Jul 25, 2019, at 09:51, Roger Pau Monne <roger.pau@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > Gang Wei Intel email address has been bouncing for some time now,
> 
> Gang Wei's replacement is Lukasz Hawrylko, who posted on March 6, 2019:
> https://lists.gt.net/xen/devel/546401
> 
> Could you include Lukasz patch, along with Julien's requested formatting 
> changes, in your update to the MAINTAINERS file?

I think it would be better if Lukasz could resend his patch, now that
the section entry is orphaned we can add/remove reviewers and
maintainers without being blocked.

> As a new Xen maintainer and contributor, Lukasz may not yet be familiar with 
> the procedures and practices of the Xen community.  We can welcome his new 
> maintainership role without dropping support for a feature, that (a) he is 
> maintaining, (b) is used by Xen.

Sure, my plan is to declare the support orphaned, so that Lukasz (or
anyone who has interest in this code) can be added as a reviewer
afterwards without us being blocked on an Ack from Shane Wang, who is
unresponsive (as per the thread pointed to in the commit message).

> > and
> > the other maintainer is non-responsive to patches [0], so remove
> > maintainers and declare INTEL(R) TRUSTED EXECUTION TECHNOLOGY (TXT)
> > orphaned.
> > 
> > [0] 
> > https://lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2019-05/msg00563.html
> 
> Since we have at least one Intel maintainer, Lukasz, the feature need not be 
> orphaned.  If Shawn is not responding to the request to confirm Lukasz as 
> maintainer, the Xen community has multiple communication channels with Intel. 
>  Pragmatically, a review of the tboot-devel archives shows that Lukasz is 
> working on tboot development.  

The orphaned step is IMO needed in order to move forward and add a new
reviewer/maintainer. Without removing the current maintainers and
declaring it orphaned we would be blocked on an Ack from Shane Wang in
order to add or remove maintainers. Removing current maintainers and
adding Lukasz in the same patch would still require an Ack from the
current owners.

Hope this makes sense, Roger.

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