[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v6 1/4] x86/ioreq server: Add HVMOP to map guest ram with p2m_ioreq_server to an ioreq server.
On 9/23/2016 6:35 PM, George Dunlap wrote: On 22/09/16 17:02, Yu Zhang wrote:On 9/22/2016 7:32 PM, George Dunlap wrote:On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:On 9/21/2016 9:04 PM, George Dunlap wrote:On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:On 9/2/2016 6:47 PM, Yu Zhang wrote:A new HVMOP - HVMOP_map_mem_type_to_ioreq_server, is added to let one ioreq server claim/disclaim its responsibility for the handling of guest pages with p2m type p2m_ioreq_server. Users of this HVMOP can specify which kind of operation is supposed to be emulated in a parameter named flags. Currently, this HVMOP only support the emulation of write operations. And it can be further extended to support the emulation of read ones if an ioreq server has such requirement in the future. For now, we only support one ioreq server for this p2m type, so once an ioreq server has claimed its ownership, subsequent calls of the HVMOP_map_mem_type_to_ioreq_server will fail. Users can also disclaim the ownership of guest ram pages with p2m_ioreq_server, by triggering this new HVMOP, with ioreq server id set to the current owner's and flags parameter set to 0. Note both HVMOP_map_mem_type_to_ioreq_server and p2m_ioreq_server are only supported for HVMs with HAP enabled. Also note that only after one ioreq server claims its ownership of p2m_ioreq_server, will the p2m type change to p2m_ioreq_server be allowed. Signed-off-by: Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@xxxxxxxxxx> Signed-off-by: Yu Zhang <yu.c.zhang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Acked-by: Tim Deegan <tim@xxxxxxx> --- Cc: Paul Durrant <paul.durrant@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@xxxxxxxx> Cc: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Jun Nakajima <jun.nakajima@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Tim Deegan <tim@xxxxxxx> changes in v6: - Clarify logic in hvmemul_do_io(). - Use recursive lock for ioreq server lock. - Remove debug print when mapping ioreq server. - Clarify code in ept_p2m_type_to_flags() for consistency. - Remove definition of P2M_IOREQ_HANDLE_WRITE_ACCESS. - Add comments for HVMMEM_ioreq_server to note only changes to/from HVMMEM_ram_rw are permitted. - Add domain_pause/unpause() in hvm_map_mem_type_to_ioreq_server() to avoid the race condition when a vm exit happens on a write- protected page, just to find the ioreq server has been unmapped already. - Introduce a seperate patch to delay the release of p2m lock to avoid the race condition. - Introduce a seperate patch to handle the read-modify-write operations on a write protected page.Why do we need to do this? Won't the default case just DTRT if it finds that the ioreq server has been unmapped?Well, patch 4 will either mark the remaining p2m_ioreq_server entries as "recal" or reset to p2m_ram_rw directly. So my understanding is that we do not wish to see a ept violation due to a p2m_ioreq_server access after the ioreq server is unmapped. Yet without this domain_pause/unpause() pair, VM accesses may trigger an ept violation during the hvmop hypercall(hvm_map_mem_type_to_ioreq_server), just to find the ioreq server is NULL. Then we would have to provide handlers which just do the copy to/from actions for the VM. This seems awkward to me.So the race you're worried about is this: 1. Guest fault happens 2. ioreq server calls map_mem_type_to_ioreq_server, unhooking 3. guest finds no ioreq server present I think in that case the easiest thing to do would be to simply assume there was a race and re-execute the instruction. Is that not possible for some reason? -GeorgeThanks for your reply, George. :) Two reasons I'd like to use the domain_pause/unpause() to avoid the race condition: 1> Like my previous explanation, in the read-modify-write scenario, the ioreq server will be NULL for the read emulation. But in such case, hypervisor will not discard this trap, instead it is supposed to do the copy work for the read access. So it would be difficult for hypervisor to decide if the ioreq server was detached due to a race condition, or if the ioreq server should be a NULL because we are emulating a read operation first for a read-modify-write instruction.Wouldn't a patch like the attached work (applied on top of the whole series)?Thanks for your patch, George. I think it should work for 1>. But we still have the dead lock problem. :) BTW, do you think a domain_pause will cause any new problem?Well using a "big hammer" like domain_pause in a case like this is usually indicates that there are other issues that aren't being solved properly -- for instance, latent deadlocks or unhandled race conditions. :-) Leaving those issues around in the codebase but "papered over" by domain_pause is storing up technical debt that future generations will inherit and need to untangle. (Particularly as in this case, there was no comment *in the code* explaining what problems the domain_pause was there to solve, so anyone wanting to try to remove it would need to just figure out.) domain_pause is relatively expensive to do (since you have to spin waiting for all the vcpus to finish running) and completely stops the domain from handling interrupts or anything for an arbitrary amount of time. As long as it doesn't happen often, the cost shouldn't be a major issue; and as long as the domain_pause is short (less than 100ms), then it shouldn't cause any more problems than running on a fairly busy system should cause. On the other hand, if every time we ran into a tricky situation we just did a domain pause rather than solving the root issue, pretty soon the domain would be paused several times per second. The performance would plummet, and fixing it would be a nightmare because you'd have hundreds of undocumented issues to try to understand and fix. So: the domain_pause itself isn't terrible (although it's better to avoid it if we can); what's more of a problem is the potential issues that it's hiding. These issues can add up, so it's important to push back and ask "why do we need this and can we solve it a different way" pro-actively, as patches come in, rather than waiting until it becomes an issue. -George Thanks for your thorough explanation on this point. And I agree. :)I have given a proposal to solve this deadlock issue in another mail. Nested locks are key to the potential deadlock, and I believe they are not necessary in this case, so using these locks sequentially could be our way out.And as to domain pause, I can remove them if we can accept the possibility when an ept violation happens, yet to find the ioreq server has already been unmapped(discarding this operation). B.R. Yu _______________________________________________ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.xen.org/xen-devel
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