Re: [Xen-devel] xenbits "official" repo for XTF (was Re: [PATCH 0/2] xtf: add launcher (+1 bugfix)

[Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 08/07/16 14:42, Lars Kurth wrote:
>
> On 08/07/2016 14:06, "Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 07/07/16 18:17, Lars Kurth wrote:
>>> Alright,
>>>
>>> it appears we are at an impasse here. Not hosting the code on xenbits as
>>> suggested by David, seems to be the worst solution and will benefit
>>> no-one. 
>>>
>>> ...
>>> That should address everyones concern, as far as I can tell from the the
>>> e-mail thread. If anyone disagrees, please shout within the next few
>>> days.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Lars
>>> P.S.: I moved fixing some of our governance issues towards the top of my
>>> TODO list
>> I have no problem with Ian's earlier suggestion:
> Alright. Ian confirmed on IRC that he has no problem either. Which means
> the main issue is unblocked and the repo can be created.
>
>>> "CI (continuous integration)" is the keyword that many people will
>>> have for osstest.
>>>
>>> I would suggest
>>>
>>>   (This is not the Xen Project's CI / Continuous Integration /
>>>    automated push gate system.  For that, see
>>>    <a href="wiki">osstest</a>.)
>>>
>>> or something.
>> Adding something like that to the XTF documentation is perfectly fine.
>> I also have no problem with the other xtf changes in descriptions/etc
>> suggested.
> That makes perfect sense (but also see below).
>
>> However, OSSTest has always been known as OSSTest (including all
>> references in the automated emails), and not as a xen test framework.
>> Taking any steps to make OSSTest retroactively searchable as a xen test
>> framework is a dumb move, which will only confuse users.
>>
>> I fully admit that had OSSTest been named differently then I might not
>> have chosen XTF as a name, but that didn't happen.  Trying to rewrite
>> history isn't the answer.
> I am not trying to re-write history. Ultimately I don't mind what the
> exact description of OSSTEST says, as long as it is accurate, which is why
> I said "something along the lines of ...". Right now there is no wiki or
> other xenbits documentation about OSSTEST which is outside the git tree
> (except for a few blog posts). Which is mainly why I raised this.
>
> Of course you are right that OSSTest is established and people who have
> been around for a while know that. The key question is what newcomers who
> don't know would search for: and to be honest I don't know. But it seems
> reasonable to me that the "OSSTEST" page should come up when googling for
> a combination/sub-set of the following keywords: "test", "xen",
> "Continuous Integration", "CI", "suite", "push-gate" and maybe
> "framework".

I think the suggested changes to XTF documentation/description should be
able to cover these cases.

I don't expect anyone to be blindly trying to find things like this; I
would expect that searches would be based on information from the
xen-devel list to start with.

~Andrew

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