Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v7 2/8] cxenstored: add support for systemd active sockets

[Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 2015-08-05 at 11:56 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@xxxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-08-05 at 11:06 +0100, George Dunlap wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:28 AM, Luis R. Rodriguez
> > > <mcgrof@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@xxxxxxxx>
> > > > 
> > > > This adds systemd socket activation support for the C xenstored.
> > > > Active sockets enable xenstored to be loaded only if required by a
> > > > system
> > > > onto which Xen is installed on. Socket activation is handled by
> > > > systemd, once a port for a service which claims a socket is used
> > > > systemd will start the required services for it, on demand. For 
> > > > more
> > > > details on socket activation refer to Lennart's socket-activation
> > > > post regarding this [0].
> > > > 
> > > > Right now this code adds a no-op for this functionality, leaving 
> > > > the
> > > > enablement to be done later once systemd is properly hooked into
> > > > the build system. The socket activation is ordered in aligment with
> > > > the socket activation order passed on to systemd.
> > > > 
> > > > [0] http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/socket-activation2.html
> > > 
> > > So with this patch in place, xenstored will not start on a system 
> > > that
> > > has systemd, *even if it wasn't started from systemd*.
> > 
> > But where systemd is /sbin/init, right?
> > 
> > The case where xenstored was compiled with systemd support but systemd 
> > is
> > not /sbin/init should still be expected to work, and isn't what I think 
> > you
> > are complaining about here.
> > 
> > > Lots of systems (e.g., CentOS 7) have legacy systems in place to 
> > > allow
> > > you to do things like "chkconfig --add xencommons" even on a systemd
> > > system.  I think we still want to work with those, right?
> > 
> > Isn't chkconfig --add still arranging for the thing to be started by
> > systemd under the hood? If not systemd on a host where 
> > /sbin/init==systemd
> > then what does else would start it?
> > 
> > If you are asking "should the sysvinit initscripts still be us(ed|able)
> > even though systemd is being used as /sbin/init on the host and a unit 
> > file
> > is present" then AIUI the systemd answer is "no". (We may choose to
> > disagree with systemd on this I suppose)
> 
> Well that's not (apparently) the RHEL answer; doing "chkconfig --add
> [foo]" Just Works on CentOS 7 for all the sysvinit scripts I've used
> (including the Xen 4.4 Xen4CentOS packages).

I would expect that the CentOS 7 packaging guidelines would
require/encourage you to use the systemd unit files (via whatever command
that is) in preference to the sysvinit initscripts when they are available.

AUIU the compatibility works the other way round, which is if you use the
new systemd commands and there is no unit file with that name but there is
a sysv initscript with that name then systemd will invoke the initscript in
a compatibility mode.

I'm a bit surprised that chkconfig doesn't just to the right thing. It's
possible that the fact that our initscript and our systemd unitfiles do not
share the same names has defeated its heuristics.

> I think we want to still *enable* people to use that mode if they want
> to.  But I won't argue if people feel strongly otherwise.
> 
> > On the other hand, does this mean I can no longer start xenstored by 
> > hand
> > from the CLI? _That_ would seem to be worth preserving, for debugging 
> > etc
> > if nothing else.
> 
> So what happens at the moment is that xenstored, run either from the
> command-line says, "Oh, look!  I'm running on a systemd system.  I'll
> check for my systemd sockets.  Oh no, no sockets!  *dies*".

This shouldn't happen...

> If run from xencommons, it doesn't even get that far: it says, "Oh,
> look! I'm running on a systemd system.  But wait! You asked me to use
> a pidfile! BAD USER! NO PIDFILE ON SYSTEMD! *dies*".

This isn't strictly speaking what we want people to be doing (they should
use the systemd units), but I think by properly fixing the first issue this
will make this start working too.

> Modifying xenstored to try to open the systemd sockets, and fall back
> to normal sockets if it doesn't find any, works when started from the
> command-line.  But for some reason, if you take out the aforementioned
> check preventing --pid-file, it still segfaults (!) at some point.  I
> haven't tracked down what the problem is there yet; but I don't want
> to bother trying if that's not what we're going for. :-)

I think the check for socket activation should be gated on a new command
line option as well as the presence of systemd, and the systemd unit file
should pass that option. Then invoking from the CLI works.

Ian.

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