Re: [Xen-devel] EFI GetNextVariableName crashes when running under Xen, but not under Linux. efi-rs=0 works. No memmap issues

["Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@xxxxxxxx>]

(re-adding xen-devel)

>>> On 27.01.15 at 01:32, <andrew.cooper3@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 27/01/2015 00:02, Daniel Kiper wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 05:00:41PM +0000, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 26.01.15 at 17:27, <konrad.wilk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Anyhow I am bit stuck:
>>>>  1) It works with Linux, so what is it that Linux does that
>>>>     Xen does not?
>>> They map more than just what is marked for runtime use.
>> IIRC, Linux maps boot services unconditionally (and states in comment
>> that this is not in line with spec). We do not have such mechanism.
>> Could we ease life of our users and add a boot option (e.g. map-efi-bs)
>> which will enforce mapping of BS regions on platforms with buggy EFI/UEFI
>> implementations? We should not penalize owners of such hardware because
>> they are not guilty of these crazy bugs. We should educate firmware devs...
>> Ehh... Please, do not curse at me. I remember discussion about EFI reset
>> stuff which happened here a few days ago.
> 
> While, in principle, I would like to take a tough stand against buggy
> firmware, the truth is that firmware is always going to be buggy, and
> many users are going to be in a position where their buggy firmware is
> not going to be fixed by their vendors.  Much as I would prefer not to,
> I feel that the only rational course of action to take is to behave like
> Linux in cases like this.
> 
> Therefore, I am a begrudgingly +1 "work around EFI firmware bugs",
> despite it being the wrong pragmatic thing to do.

And I agree that we will need to accept in such workarounds. But
two remarks to whoever is going to implement it: We already have
the efi-rs workaround option - we should deprecate that one, and
have a consolidated efi= one instead, covering the case here too.
Plus the issue here is not just a matter of mapping BS memory, but
also not making it available to the allocator. That in turn may yield
problems with the conversion of the EFI memory map to E820 form,
both because of the number of entries needed, and because that
conversion happens _before_ the normal command line parsing.

Jan


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