Re: [Xen-devel] [TESTDAY] PV / HVM pass-through works when IOMMU present; weird failures when not

["Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@xxxxxxxx>]

>>> On 01.07.13 at 12:53, George Dunlap <george.dunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 28/06/13 17:00, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>> On 28.06.13 at 17:37, George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> - For HVM guests, the only user-visible indication tha the IOMMU has
>>> been disabled is the following error message on the command-line:
>>>
>>> # xl pci-attach h0 07:00.0
>>> libxl: error: libxl_pci.c:949:do_pci_add: xc_assign_device failed
>>>
>>> However, the device itself ends up passed-through to the guest anyway;
>>> the guest seems to be able to see it and interact with it normally.
>>> This is particularly scary, as in theory this should not be possible
>>> without a working IOMMU.
>>>
>>> I don't think this is a blocker for 4.3, but we should definitely
>>> release note it, and for 4.4 add a check to see if there is a
>>> functioning IOMMU and only add a device if there's an override set.
>> To me this very much looks like a security problem (which I
>> think we should fix asap).
> 
> Is it worth delaying the release (yet) another week for?

I would say so, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise.

> Probably the simplest solution at the moment, if there's an easy way for 
> the toolstack to figure out whether there is a working IOMMU or not, is 
> to simply not allow pass-through without an IOMMU unless there is an 
> override option.

xend had no override option - pass-through to HVM without
IOMMU should never be allowed imo.

Adding proper error handling perhaps is indeed beyond what's
reasonable for 4.3, but making use of xc_test_assign_device()
should result in not too big a change.

Jan


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