Re: [Xen-devel] Time Change Issue Xen 4.1

[Niall Fleming <niall.fleming@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I wasn't expecting anyone to speed up and fix the issue, I just hoped that one or more of
people who were involved in the original ticket could respond to a request for an update,
I only asked for an update about once a week, even with busy schedules I would have
thought that that was possible.

I would look into the problem myself, but kernel hacking and hardcore XEN development is
not my thing, I did not intend to put anyone's back up about the issue. I'd love to fix the
problem myself, and am quite willing to test and debug stuff.

For reference the issue is not a massive deal-breaker for me, but it will be when the hardware
clock drifts next, particularly on the production machines which may have up to 100 instances
on, it becomes a massive ball-ache to down the server and reboot it just to get the instances to
boot with the correct time.

Niall Fleming BSc. (Hons)
Systems Administrator
Webanywhere Limited

Phone: 0800 862 0131 Ext: 203
Web: http://www.webanywhere.co.uk

Aire Valley Business Centre, Lawkholme Lane, Keighley, BD21 3BB
Registered in England with company number 4881346

On 01/12/2011 10:28, Laszlo Ersek wrote:

Hello Niall,

On 12/01/11 10:53, Ian Campbell wrote:

On Thu, 2011-12-01 at 08:55 +0000, Niall Fleming wrote:

Cheers, at least I know that someone is still looking at it!

If someone could give me a general timeframe, like it'll be a month,
before we fix it, or two weeks or whatever, I just need to give my
line manager something so he gets off my case about it!

I'm afraid OSS software doesn't generally work like that. If you (or
your boss) wants something fixed on a specific time scale or priority
you'll have to role your sleeves up and scratch the itch. Otherwise I'm
sorry but you will just have to wait until someone has the cycles to
look into this issue.

I shouldn't comment on this, because
- it'll be off-topic, and
- (more importantly) personally I'm not knowledgeable enough to fix the problem,

but I feel compelled to point out that *in general* it's not about the various rights accompanying the bits (ie. proprietary / open source / free software). It's about who gets to allocate whose resources. Under this aspect it's irrelevant under what rights the end product will be released, the question is instead who backs the effort & costs of the end product being hammered into existence.

Users of FLOSS tend to mix up these two things ("what rights do I have to the code?" vs. "work on this for my sake!"). For the second concept, commercial relationships are (and have always been) the default, even if extremely forthcoming FLOSS developers used to evoke a different impression.

(To make it abundantly clear, this is not an advertisment, and I'm speaking *strictly* personally, for myself alone.)

Laszlo

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