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Hi,
>To understand better, have a look at .../xen/arch/x86/irq.c, and in
>particular the function __do_IRQ_guest().

But do hvm guests use event channels as used in /xen/arch/x86/irq.c. My thinking was they use emulated pic/apic.

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   1. RE: FW: about VIRQ & PIRQ (Petersson, Mats)
   2. Re: FW: about VIRQ & PIRQ (pradeep singh rautela)
   3. Re: [patch 14/33] xen: xen time implementation
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:09:06 +0200
From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] FW: about VIRQ & PIRQ
To: "pradeep singh rautela" <rautelap@xxxxxxxxx>,    "Mark Williamson"
    <mark.williamson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Gautham Kampalapur Shankar, TLS, Chennai" <gauthamk@xxxxxx>,
    xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> pradeep singh rautela
> Sent: 06 June 2007 09:19
> To: Mark Williamson
> Cc: Gautham Kampalapur Shankar, TLS, Chennai;
> xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] FW: about VIRQ & PIRQ
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> Hi Mark,
> [snip]
> >
> > If I recall correctly, PIRQs are mapped one-to-one onto the
> lower numbered
> > event channels (I'm not sure if this is specific to
> XenLinux or part of the
> > Xen API).
> >
> > A VIRQ is a interrupt-like event that originates from Xen
> itself.  An example
> > would be notifications from the Xen virtual timer device.
> Again, the guest
> > sees it as an event channel notification but this time we
> call it a VIRQ to
> > show that it comes from an entirely *virtual* source.
> Does this means if hypervisor recieves an interrupt from an external
> card on the behalf of a domU, it actually buffers it like a an APIC
> before eventually generating a VIRQ to the respective domU?

Yes, essentially so. There is a bitmap for each guest of "pending
interrupts", which is read based on an event to the guest.

>
> The above question is more obvious when we have an external hardware
> device which generates interrupts are a very high rate e.g a busy
> network card.
>
> So, does Xen buffers the recieved IRQs if it is unable to send the IRQ
> to the correct domU?

It is "never unable" to send the IRQ to the guest. The guest may be
unable to TAKE the interrupt at this point, but it's never unable for
the hypervisor to "send" the IRQ to the guest.

To understand better, have a look at .../xen/arch/x86/irq.c, and in
particular the function __do_IRQ_guest().

>
> I hope same holds true while handling interrupts on the
> behalf of dom0.
> Or is it that, Xen just forwards the interrupt to dom0 which then
> handles the actual creation of a VIRQ using event channels to notify a
> domU?

I think I've told you before, Dom0 is no different from any other domain
when it comes to how it interacts with the hypervisor, aside from having
a bit set that says "You're allowed to do things like
creating/destroying other guests". Interrupt handling in Dom0 is exactly
identical to any other guest - there is nothing in the above irq.c file
that says "if (domain is dom0) ..." (in fact, the only domain_id usage
is for a printk in the "dump_irqs" function, which is for dumping the
current IRQ state on the console when in Xen console-mode.

--
Mats
>
> Thank you
> - --psr
>
> >
> > There are actually more variations to event channels:
> events might also come
> > from another domain we are communicating with, or (I think)
> from another VCPU
> > in the same domain.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
> >
> > --
> > Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat?
> And no pedals!
> > Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a
> skateboard?
> > Dave: Skateboards have wheels.
> > Mark: My wheel has a wheel!
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:44:08 +0530
From: "pradeep singh rautela" <rautelap@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] FW: about VIRQ & PIRQ
To: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
Cc: "Gautham Kampalapur Shankar, TLS, Chennai" <gauthamk@xxxxxx>,
    xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,    Mark Williamson
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On 6/6/07, Petersson, Mats  wrote:
[snip]
> > Does this means if hypervisor recieves an interrupt from an external
> > card on the behalf of a domU, it actually buffers it like a an APIC
> > before eventually generating a VIRQ to the respective domU?
>
>
> Yes, essentially so. There is a bitmap for each guest of "pending
> interrupts", which is read based on an event to the guest.
>
> >
> > The above question is more obvious when we have an external hardware
> > device which generates interrupts are a very high rate e.g a busy
> > network card.
> >
> > So, does Xen buffers the recieved IRQs if it is unable to send the IRQ
> > to the correct domU?
>
> It is "never unable" to send the IRQ to the guest. The guest may be
> unable to TAKE the interrupt at this point, but it's never unable for
> the hypervisor to "send" the IRQ to the guest.

Yes, messed that up here.
>
> To understand better, have a look at .../xen/arch/x86/irq.c, and in
> particular the function __do_IRQ_guest().
>
> >
> > I hope same holds true while handling interrupts on the
> > behalf of dom0.
> > Or is it that, Xen just forwards the interrupt to dom0 which then
> > handles the actual creation of a VIRQ using event channels to notify a
> > domU?
>
> I think I've told you before, Dom0 is no different from any other domain
> when it comes to how it interacts with the hypervisor, aside from having
> a bit set that says "You're allowed to do things like
> creating/destroying other guests". Interrupt handling in Dom0 is exactly
> identical to any other guest - there is nothing in the above irq.c file
> that says "if (domain is dom0) ..." (in fact, the only domain_id usage
> is for a printk in the "dump_irqs" function, which is for dumping the
> current IRQ state on the console when in Xen console-mode.

Thank you Mats.

Regards
- --psr
>
> --
> Mats
> >
> > Thank you
> > - --psr
> >
> > >
> > > There are actually more variations to event channels:
> > events might also come
> > > from another domain we are communicating with, or (I think)
> > from another VCPU
> > > in the same domain.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps,
> > > Cheers,
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat?
> > And no pedals!
> > > Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a
> > skateboard?
> > > Dave: Skateboards have wheels.
> > > Mark: My wheel has a wheel!
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Xen-devel mailing list
> > > Xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
> > >
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