Re: [Xen-users] New to Xen

["admin@xxxxxxx" <admin@xxxxxxx>]

Yes I spent a two days before coming here trying to get a feel for what 
is necessary.
The web resources are sketchy and pretty inconsequential.

If you search the web, you will find most new to Xen is looking for a  
distro with Dom0, so that they can concentrate on figuring out the rest. 
It immediately resonated with  me as the logical step.
I just echoed that sentiment.
The response by Nick Kamis and Sehr Geehrter Herr Dettenbach, is an 
unnecessarily uncouth slap through the face no one  deserves.
I strongly suggest those who are tired dealing with new users create a 
new usergroup for advanced users and you all go there, and let (new to 
Xen) users have a Xen group they can help each other at their level.
The name Xen-users group is deceiving based on the level of support you 
are willing to give newcombers.
We all have to start somewhere and most of you forgot that.

Except for the two constructive responses I received from Aaron and 
Andrew, the group serves no purpose for someone new to Xen.
You cannot have it both ways attacking new users who ADMIT in the first 
line of their posts to be new to Xen and then expect that new users will 
take up Xen.
I honestly don't understand what you want to achieve other than to 
alienate new users from Xen.
If the two people who succeeded to  troll with me did not pull their 
triggers, there would have been three posts total period.. wouldn't that 
be nice?
See where we are now... count the mails.





Simon Hobson wrote:
> admin@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > What did I do to deserve this ?
> I too think Niels's response was somewhat OTT.
>
> But, put yourself in the other persons shoes. Your posting comes 
> across as "I don't want to figure anything out for myself, could you 
> spoonfeed me please". Most people are happy to help, but draw the line 
> at someone who gives the appearance of not wanting to put any work in 
> themselves.
> I don't know if you've already looked at what documentation is easily 
> available and easy to find - the wording/tone of your message suggests 
> you might not have done so. That's a good way to get people's backs 
> up, since the documentation is there specifically to avoid needing to 
> deal with individual requests from every new user - which I think you 
> can imagine can be very sapping of limited resources.
> The fact is that Xen is not a trivial tool to setup and use. You are 
> going to have to put some effort into learning it if you are going to 
> get the best results.
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