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[Xen-devel] Re: [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravi

To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@xxxxxxxx>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, David Miller <davem@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Xen-devel] Re: [patch 13/26] Xen-paravirt_ops: Consistently wrap paravirt ops callsites to make them patchable
From: Zachary Amsden <zach@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:29:03 -0800
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Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
Well, one thing to make clear is this is absolutely not a Xen-specific
patch or piece of code.  This is part of the paravirt_ops infrastructure
designed to remove the overhead of all the indirect calls which are
scattered all over the place.  (Perhaps I should post the general
paravirt and Xen specific patches in separate patch series to make this
clear...).

The idea is to wrap the callsite itself with in the same manner as the
other altinstructions so that the general patcher can, at the very
least, convert the indirect call to a direct one, or nop it out if its
an indirect call.  This means that a pv_ops implementation can get about
90% of the benefit of patching without any extra effort.

I like this code very much; although it is unavoidably ugly, it is a nice general mechanism for doing code rewriting. Much more elaboration on this below.

So, I disagree with your characterisation that its "limited"; this is a
pretty general mechanism.  The fragile part is in using the PVOP_*
macros properly to match the ABI's calling convention, particularly with
tricky cases like passed and returned structures and 64-bit args.  But
that just needs to be done once in one place, and is otherwise
self-contained.

You could just use the VMI ABI, then patch everything at runtime to call into the Xen paravirt-ops backend ;)

I would love a better mechanism.  I played with using things like gcc's
builtin_apply stuff, and so on, but I could find no way to get gcc to
set up the args and then be able to just emit the call itself under asm
control.

I fought tooth and nail to get something cleaner than this for VMI back when it was a subarch. In the end, the best I could do was wrap the constraints into prettier macros so the asm volatile stuff wasn't sticking out everywhere. It was pretty, but the macros were so grotesque that I was exiled from my home planet.

static inline void local_irq_restore(const unsigned long flags)
{
       vmi_wrap_call(
               SetInterruptMask, "pushl %0; popfl",
               VMI_NO_OUTPUT,
               1, VMI_IREG1 (flags),
               XCONC("cc", "memory"));
}

So the constraints are obvious and tied to the inline assembly. But Jeremy seems to have done even better with the vcall stuff. Prettier:

+       PVOP_VCALL0(setup_boot_clock);




I haven't looked at Dave's reply in detail, but I saw some mention of
using relocs.  The idea is intriguing , but I don't quite see how it
would all fit together.

We went through this design exercise, and thought it was pretty promising. Basically, you would reserve a set of "local" relocation types that should never be emitted by the toolchain. Then you can have complex relocations, such as "replace pushf; popf %0 with arbitrary code." You can even leave the arguments unfixed and grant the compiler register allocation, as long as you took care to encode the input / output registers somewhere (in a .reloc section of some sort, or encoded in the relocation type itself).

Now you can make complex decisions at runtime, and apply choice functions to these relocations that can cope with a variety of different circumstances - you could encode not just paravirt-ops as relocations, but all of the alternative instructions, and smp alternatives, and even higher level constructs, such as choices made by the user with the kernel command line - some potential examples:

acpi=noirq
idle=halt

With proper synchronization, using something like stop_machine_run, you can even make these choices dynamically, and then relink the kernel in place to take faster paths. And the technique is universal, so you could use it cross architecture, which would be really helpful for architectures that say, have really slow indirect branches.

Once the technique gains wide acceptance, you could use it for all kernel interfaces which have static function pointers for the post-init lifetime of the kernel. Which might contribute to a global performance improvement of perhaps a couple percent. But the cost is clearly the complexity.

I just had a slightly interesting idea - you could even catch bugs where dynamic assignments to function pointers fail to update the appropriate patch sites by checking for non .init code sections which write through accelerated_fn_ptr_t's using static checking from sparse.

Is that sort of what you were thinking of Dave?

Zach

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