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RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP

To: "'Peter Van Biesen'" <peter.vanbiesen@xxxxxxx>, <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
From: "Dustin Henning" <Dustin.Henning@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:50:19 -0400
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Peter,
        OK, first and foremost, I think I forgot to mention this thread in
my last response:
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00428.html
I bring it up now because I looked over your config again and noticed the
two CD-ROM drives.  It may be that you need to get rid of them as this may
be a new problem with 0.9.11-pre11 (if you really need those images mounted
in Windows, you might be able to use something like Elby Virtual Clone Drive
[http://elby.ch/fun/software/index.html] to mount those images from within
the domU, but I don't know if this can be done automatically [might require
manual remount after each reboot]).
        I haven't even messed with 0.9.11-preX, I am running 0.9.10.  Seeing
as how you had problems with it, my only thought is that if the installer
changed for 0.9.11-pre11 vs 0.9.10, you might revert again and try 0.9.10 to
see if the add new hardware windows disappear on their own given a bit of
time.  I know I've had hanging like that in the past with previous versions,
and it seems like in some cases waiting long enough would make it work
(though not necessarily with the performance the drivers are supposed to
provide) and in others I had to restore (or rebuild) Windows, and try again,
as it used to (and may still) be absolutely crucial that the drivers are
installed on a clean system, but I honestly don't remember all the details
here.  Alternatively, since 0.9.10 caused your system to hang, you might try
the suggestion mentioned here on 0.9.11-pre11 (even though the issue being
resolved appears to be unrelated and has potentially been solved in pre11):
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2008-08/msg00203.html
        I think the risk with doing that (disabling the xenhide.sys driver)
is that if the system loads the qemu drivers and the gplpv drivers at the
same time you will get massive HD corruption (should not be a big deal with
a snapshot).  However, for the record, I am shooting in the dark on all
counts here (I haven't suggested anything I wouldn't try, but that doesn't
mean I haven't suggested some things others wouldn't recommend trying), so
don't get your hopes up.  Unless removing the 0.9.10 drivers was done via a
method other than reverting to a backup/snapshot (you said removing them via
device manager and it has always taken more steps than that) or the drivers
and their installation methods changed quite a bit between 0.9.10 and
0.9.11-pre11 (assuming you didn't get the same error on 0.9.10), the error
ending in "but can't find the device itself" might ultimately have something
to do with your environment (for instance, perhaps your version of Windows
is different or there is an issue with your version of debian).  I think
James usually spends more time dealing with his drivers and the list on
weekends, so it might be a few days or a couple weeks before you hear much
from him, but unless you luck out somehow, that's probably what it will
take.
        Finally, as an aside, regarding your thread on the performance of
the GPLPV drivers, it surprises me that your users haven't complained about
performance with qemu drivers, they must be easy to please.  The difference
is most certainly noticeable and worth the trouble.
        Dustin


-----Original Message-----
From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Van Biesen
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 04:47
To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running
Windows XP SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working

Hi Dustin,

reverting is a matter of seconds, as I am running my domU on a lvm snapshot
volume.

I tried installing again. When I got the new hardware windows, I did
nothing, but they did nog go away. So I hit cancel on every one.

In the device manager, the xen devices still had the exclamation mark. 

I then added the /gplpv line in the boot.ini and rebooted. This worked fine
! But windows still didn't use the xen drivers ( no change in the counters
in xm top ). The drivers still have the exclamation mark and every time I
reboot I get all the "new hardware" windows again and again. 

I had installed the 0.9.10 drivers last week, this made windows hang, but
the counters in xm top did go up.

I removed all faulty drivers from the device manager and rebooted. When I
then look at the devices, no drivers are installed. I then installed them
one by one and get error :

" Windows has loaded the driver in memory, but can't find the device itself
( code 41 )" ( this is a translation from dutch )

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance,

Peter.

On Monday 18 August 2008 17:32:37 Dustin Henning wrote:
>       I don't remember what version this applies to, but at one point,
when 
> installing, I was going through the "new hardware" windows and letting 
> Windows install the drivers automatically.  I had problems when I did
this.
> After recovering to a pre GPLPV-installed environment, I ran the 
> installer again and let it deal with these windows.  They eventually 
> disappeared without me even clicking next and then everything worked 
> great.  I tried this because that is how some Windows driver 
> installers work (i.e. most mainboard RealTek sound drivers).  However, 
> this may not help you, as this may have been with an installer for a 
> previous version that didn't have the "the device is not plugged in, 
> cannot update driver" error, which I believe was added to prevent
confusion when upgrading from one version to another.
> Hopefully someone else can come back with more/better information, but 
> in the meantime, odds are that you'll need to get to a pre 
> GPLPV-installed state (restore from backup) and try again, so if 
> getting back to that state is easy and you want to try the install 
> again before anyone else responds, just don't interfere with the parts 
> of the install that look like they need manual intervention for a while
and see what happens.  Good luck,
>       Dustin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Van 
> Biesen
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 09:05
> To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Xen-users] Xen 3.2 on debian dom0 2.6.18 x86_64 running 
> Windows XP
> SP3 : gplpv 0.9.11pre11 not working
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I installed a debian xen server using the 3.2 xen hypervisor and the 
> 2.6.18 xen enabled kernel ( from stable ) x86_64 . I installed a 32bit 
> windows xp using hvm. This all worked perfectly. Networking and disk io
work.
> 
> I installed SP1a, SP3 and the .net 2.0 framework.
> 
> I then tried to install the gplpv drivers. I downloaded the 
> 0.9.11pre11 and installed it.
> 
> While installation, I get "the device is not plugged in, cannot update 
> driver" 6 times, installation of the driver seems to work ( windows 
> complains a couple of times that it cannot verify the drivers are of 
> its own 'high' standard ). After installation, I get several "new
hardware" windows.
> I let windows install the default drivers ( which are the gplpv drivers ).
> 
> I then reboot the domU ( without altering the boot.ini ). In the 
> device manager, the vbd xen devices and the xen net device all have a 
> exclamation mark on them. The only xen device working without problems 
> is "xen pci device driver".
> 
> All drivers have the same error : Code 12 : insufficient free 
> resources ( its a dutch installation, so this is a translation ).
> 
> When I edit the boot.ini to add the /gplpv and boot with that, I get 
> een BSOD on Mup.sys.
> 
> Here's my config. Strangely enough, I do not need to put any ioemu 
> stuff in the file for windows to boot ( maybe this is new in 3.2 ? ):
> ------------------------------------
> kernel = "/usr/lib/xen-default/boot/hvmloader"
> builder='hvm'
> memory = 512
> name = "windows2"
> disk = [
> 'phy:/dev/vg00/windows2-snap,hda,w','file:/root/winxp-nl-setup-Q6TD9-9
> FMQ3-F 
> RVF4-VPF7Y-38JV3.iso,hdc:cdrom,r','file:/root/wintemp.iso,hdd:cdrom,r'
> , ] vif = [ 'bridge=eth0,mac=00:16:3E:00:02:01', ] device_model = 
> '/usr/lib/xen-default/bin/qemu-dm'
> 
> boot='cd'
> sdl=0
> vnc=1
> vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
> vncunused=1
> acpi=1
> apic=0
> pae=1
> usb = 1
> usbdevice = 'tablet'
> #serial="pty"
> ----------------------------------
> 
> Does anybody have an idea of what could be wrong ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Peter.
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