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Re: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware

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Subject: Re: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:24:44 -0500
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Denny,
 
I would look into possibly getting one of the new Pentium D's with VT. Have a look at which ones have VT: http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/pentium_d.htm
 
The 940 will run you about $100 from a recent search of Pricewatch. It is also dual core, which is really helpful when running VMs.
 
Don't know what to tell you for the chipset, but the Intel chipsets usually do well. Just check out which the computer you are buying has, or just click the right link if you are purchasing the motherboard yourself :)
 
This is actually what I plan on getting working within the next few months (Unless something better is in the same price range by then).
 
-Ken

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Today's Topics:

   1. searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware (Denny Schierz)
   2. Re: problem with booting domU via NFS root (ardy mardy)
   3. 2.6.23 as domU kernel possible? (Peter Braun)
   4. Re: problem with booting domU via NFS root (Steve Kemp)
   5. Live migration into a local machine (Claris Castillo)
   6. NetBSD as domU - cnopen console device (Oliver Kowalke)
   7. Re: problem with booting domU via NFS root (ardy mardy)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:18:24 +0200
From: Denny Schierz <linuxmail@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Xen-users] searching for cheap HVM (Intel/Amd) hardware
To: "'xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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hi,

for my home "testcenter" i'm searching for a mainboard and CPU to get
xen HVM running. So i still don't need a blade or something else ;-)
What can i buy, without rob a bank?

But please, no via/apollo/sis Chipset :-)

cu denny

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:26:08 -0400
From: "ardy mardy" <ardelicious@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] problem with booting domU via NFS root
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Thanks Steve. For some reason I don't have the CONFIG_ROOT_NFS option in my
kernel.
My problem is much the same as the one described on this page:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-337239-highlight-.html?sid=f0de502989c707746fcebef76a1267d1

However, I had all the following enabled but still to no avail:
CONFIG_IP_PNP=y
CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP=yCONFIG_IP_PNP=y
CONFIG_IP_PNP_DHCP=y
CONFIG_IP_PNP_BOOTP=y
CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP=y
CONFIG_IP_PNP_BOOTP=y
CONFIG_IP_PNP_RARP=y

I also tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" and no luck there either.

Thanks,
Ardy

On 7/22/07, Steve Kemp <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 20:37:12 -0400, xen xen wrote:
>
> >    mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfs'
>
>   There's your error.
>
> >    And these are the related modules I have in /boot/config-2.6.18-xen:
> >    CONFIG_NFS_FS=m
> >    CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
> >    CONFIG_NFS_V3_ACL=y
> >    CONFIG_NFS_V4=y
> >    CONFIG_NFS_DIRECTIO=y
> >    CONFIG_NFSD=m
> >    CONFIG_NFSD_V2_ACL=y
> >    CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y
> >    CONFIG_NFSD_V3_ACL=y
> >    CONFIG_NFSD_V4=y
> >    CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y
> >    CONFIG_NFS_ACL_SUPPORT=m
> >    CONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y
>
>   You need "CONFIG_ROOT_NFS" - that allows the root filesystem to
> come from NFS.
>
>   This article gives a brief overview from the last time I did this,
> obviously not your distribution but it might be helpful:
>
>     http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/505
>
> Steve
> --
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:35:47 +0200
From: "Peter Braun" <xenware@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Xen-users] 2.6.23 as domU kernel possible?
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Hi,

based on this message:

http://blogs.xensource.com/simon/?p=21

shall I understand it that way that it is possible to run 2.6.23
kernel domU under 2.6.18 dom0 host now?


Br

Peter



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:36:45 +0100
From: Steve Kemp <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] problem with booting domU via NFS root
To: ardy mardy <ardelicious@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 13:26:08 -0400, ardy mardy wrote:

>    I also tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" and no luck there either.

  I pointed you at an article describing where to enable the relevant
option.  The Gentoo page you reference also describes where to enable
the option.  Typing random commands and expecting it to work by magic
isn't going to get you anywhere.

  Follow the instructions in the Xen README for building a kernel:

    # make linux-2.6-xen-config CONFIGMODE=menuconfig
    # make linux-2.6-xen-build
    # make linux-2.6-xen-install

  When you're in the "menuconfig" stage enable:

  Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: kernel level autoconfiguration
  Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: DHCP Support
  File Systems ---> Network File Systems ---> Root file system on NFS >

  Once you do that you'll have a working system.  Simply by following
instructions.  No magic!

Steve
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:02:03 -0400
From: Claris Castillo <ccastil@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Xen-users] Live migration into a local machine
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Hi,
I was wondering if is it possible to perform a "live migration" into the
same host of the original VM.
The reason why ones would like to do this is because at the end of the
"Stop-and-copy" stage  of the
live migration process there are two consistent suspended copy  of the  VM
at both A and B (original and target host),
In cases where  applications can afford a downtime on the scale of
nanoseconds this seems to be  better option than
doing hot backups (using REDO files at least).

Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks
cc




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:43:03 +0200
From: Oliver Kowalke <oliver.kowalke@xxxxxx>
Subject: [Xen-users] NetBSD as domU - cnopen console device
To: "Xen users mailing list" <xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <200707232343.03261.oliver.kowalke@xxxxxx>
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Hi,
I want to full virtualize NetBSD 3.1 (64bit) on Linux (64bit) with xen 3.1.
but NetBSD reboots during installation process after printing error:
no /dev/console
cnopen console devide
How can I fix this?
regards, Oliver

kernel  = '/usr/lib/xen-ioemu-3.1/boot/hvmloader'
builder = 'hvm'
memory  = '1024'
device_model = '/usr/lib/xen-ioemu-3.1/bin/qemu-dm'
disk =
[ 'phy:/dev/volg0/lvol7,ioemu:hda,w', 'file:/opt/netbsd/amd64cd-3.1.iso,ioemu:hdc:cdrom,r' ]
name    = 'nbsd-64'
vif  = [ 'type=ioemu, bridge=xenbr2' ]
audio=1
soundhw='es1370'
boot='d'
vnc=0
sdl=1

vnclisten="0.0.0.0"
usb=1
usbdevice='tablet'



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:09:27 -0400
From: "ardy mardy" <ardelicious@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] problem with booting domU via NFS root
To: "Steve Kemp" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Thanks. I apologize if I was n't clear enough in my previous post. When I
get into the menuconfig stage ( after "make
linux-2.6-xen-configCONFIGMODE=menuconfig" as you also suggested), I
don't see an option for
enabling CONFIG_ROOT_NFS.  The Gentoo page also starts by saying this option
did not exist for the user at the menuconfig stage, not until the the
following options were set:
Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP:
kernel level autoconfiguration
Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP: DHCP
Support

However, even by having the above options set, I still do n't have a away to
set CONFIG_ROOT_NFS!
This is my view of options in File Systems ->  Network File Systems:
x x              <M> NFS file system support
                         x x
  x x              [*]   Provide NFSv3 client support
                            x x
  x x              [*]     Provide client support for the NFSv3 ACL protocol
extension                  x x
  x x              [*]   Provide NFSv4 client support (EXPERIMENTAL)
                           x x
  x x              [*]   Allow direct I/O on NFS files (EXPERIMENTAL)
                            x x
  x x              <M> NFS server support
                            x x
  x x              [*]   Provide NFSv3 server support
                            x x
  x x              [*]     Provide server support for the NFSv3 ACL protocol
extension                  x x
  x x              [*]     Provide NFSv4 server support (EXPERIMENTAL)
                           x x
  x x              ---   Provide NFS server over TCP support
                           x x
  x x              --- Secure RPC: Kerberos V mechanism (EXPERIMENTAL)
                           x x
  x x              <M> Secure RPC: SPKM3 mechanism (EXPERIMENTAL)
                            x x
  x x              <M> SMB file system support (to mount Windows shares
etc.)                           x x
  x x              [*]   Use a default NLS
                           x x
  x x              (cp850) Default Remote NLS Option
                           x x
  x x              <M> CIFS support (advanced network filesystem for Samba,
Window and other CIFS complix x
  x x              [*]   CIFS statistics
                           x x
  x x              [ ]     Extended statistics
                           x x
  x x              [ ]   Support legacy servers which use weaker LANMAN
security                        x x

<M> CIFS support (advanced network filesystem for Samba, Window and other
CIFS complix x
  x x              [*]   CIFS statistics
                           x x
  x x              [ ]     Extended statistics
                           x x
  x x              [ ]   Support legacy servers which use weaker LANMAN
security                        x x
  x x              [*]   CIFS extended attributes
                            x x
  x x              [*]     CIFS POSIX Extensions
                           x x
  x x              [ ]   Enable additional CIFS debugging routines
                           x x
  x x              [ ]   CIFS Experimental Features (EXPERIMENTAL)
                           x x
  x x              <M> NCP file system support (to mount NetWare volumes)
                            x x
  x x              [*]   Packet signatures
                           x x
  x x              [*]   Proprietary file locking
                            x x
  x x              [*]   Clear remove/delete inhibit when needed
                           x x
  x x              [*]   Use NFS namespace if available
                            x x
  x x              [*]   Use LONG (OS/2) namespace if available
                            x x
  x x              [*]   Lowercase DOS filenames
                           x x
  x x              [*]   Use Native Language Support
                           x x
  x x              [*]   Enable symbolic links and execute flags
                           x x
  x x              <M> Coda file system support (advanced network fs)
                            x x
  x x              [ ]   Use 96-bit Coda file identifiers
                            x x
  x x              <M> Andrew File System support (AFS) (Experimental)
                           x x
  x x              <M> Plan 9 Resource Sharing Support (9P2000)
(Experimental)                          x x

And the reason I tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" was the following
post:
http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2006-08/msg00711.html

I'm no linux/xen expert, but I know this much that there is no magic. That's
why I looked around for a solution.
Thanks to you and others on the list for taking the time to help beginners
like me despite our stupid questions/problems!



On 7/23/07, Steve Kemp <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 13:26:08 -0400, ardy mardy wrote:
>
> >    I also tried "make CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y world" and no luck there either.
>
>   I pointed you at an article describing where to enable the relevant
> option.  The Gentoo page you reference also describes where to enable
> the option.  Typing random commands and expecting it to work by magic
> isn't going to get you anywhere.
>
>   Follow the instructions in the Xen README for building a kernel:
>
>     # make linux-2.6-xen-config CONFIGMODE=menuconfig
>     # make linux-2.6-xen-build
>     # make linux-2.6-xen-install
>
>   When you're in the "menuconfig" stage enable:
>
>   Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP:
> kernel level autoconfiguration
>   Device Drivers --> Networking support ---> Networking options ---> IP:
> DHCP Support
>   File Systems ---> Network File Systems ---> Root file system on NFS >
>
>   Once you do that you'll have a working system.  Simply by following
> instructions.  No magic!
>
> Steve
> --
>
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