The CPU is of course not PIN-compatible. But due to HT 2.0 the mainboard
developers can use the old "Bridge" Chips. So its _possible_ that HVM
does not work. I am not sure, if there are changes needed in the
additional equipment so that its working...
Regards, Bigfoot29
Petersson, Mats wrote:
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marco
>>Sent: 31 May 2006 07:25
>>To: jerry@xxxxxxx; xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool - or
>>"AMD availability" ;)
>>
>>You are right. They are said to be on stocks for a couple of days now.
>>But to tell the truth, at least here they aren't. Yes, there
>>is the FX.
>>The price alone tells you "hands off!". And yes, there is the
>>3500+ and
>>3800+ (single core). But who will use that? If you wanted to habe a
>>3500+ you could and get the Stepping E's as well. The
>>_interesting_ CPUs
>>- named the X2 ones for server application use - are not
>>delivered to the stores before 02.06.06 - what means another
>>week waiting ;)
>>
>>As for your "no new motherboard" - I would be carefull there...
>>basically they CAN use their old motherboard. Only changes
>>needed are the other socket and more data lines to the memory.
>>So there _could_ be problems.
>
>
> As far as I'm aware, the new Socket AM2 is NOT compatible with older
> socket 939 (and of course not 754).
>
> Of course, a 3500+ in Stepping F would only be useful if you either want
> virtualization support, or want to use DDR2 memory. Both of these are
> new features in the new revision of the processor, and not present (at
> all) in the older stepping.
>
> --
> Mats
>
>>However, my X2 is already preordered. Can't wait getting my
>>hands on them testing the HVM-capatibilities (what was the
>>major reason buying that thing XD )
>>
>>Regards, Bigfoot29
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 17:55:24 +0200
>>>From: "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@xxxxxxx>
>>>Subject: RE: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool
>>>To: "Jerry Amundson" <jerry@xxxxxxx>, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Message-ID:
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>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>[mailto:xen-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry
>>>>Amundson
>>>>Sent: 27 May 2006 16:53
>>>>To: xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Windows on XEN with Vanderpool
>>>>
>>>>On Sat May 27 2006 08:26, Marco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>I threw together a wiki on HVM along these lines...
>>>>>>http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/HVM_Compatible_Processors
>>>>>
>>>>>I have seen that the AMD-CPUs are missing...
>>>>>You can safely add "All AMD Athlon64 CPUs in a AM2 Socket
>>
>>(Stepping
>>
>>>>>F)" to the list. They rare all intend to have Pacifica on board.
>>>>>
>>>>>(Note: Athlon64, not Semperons. They are lacking exactly that
>>>>>feature)
>>>>
>>>>I see this information as useful towards a purchase decision.
>>>>I'd rather leave it TBD, and only include processors available for
>>>>sale currently.
>>>>Although the statement above is safe, as a new user I'd find it
>>>>misleading as I might believe my current AMD Athlon64 CPU in a AM2
>>>>Socket (Stepping F) to be HVM-capable, only to end up with
>>
>>"Error: Not
>>
>>>>an HVM capable platform, we stop creating!"
>>>
>>>
>>>They are available for sale now - ok, so your local Fry's
>>
>>or PC World
>>
>>>may not have any in stock, but they are available to buy from AMD.
>>>
>>>AMD's press-release:
>>>
>>
>>http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoom/0,,51_104_543~1086
>>
>>>05
>>>,00.html
>>>
>>>I managed to find at least one web-site that advertise the FX-62
>>>processor (and several other AM2 processors) for sale, so
>>
>>it appears
>>
>>>that it is possible to order them from retailers.
>>>
>>
>>http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?E
>>
>>>dp No=2207290&Sku=CP1-AM2-FX62&SRCCODE=CNETFEED&CMP=OTC-CNETFEED
>>>
>>>I have no connection with the Tigerdirect company, it's purely a
>>>result of googling for FX-62, which is one of the AM2 processors. I
>>>have no clue whether this is a good, bad or ugly retailer...
>>>
>>>All Athlon/Opteron/Turion brand products in AM2 sockets should have
>>>SVM (please don't use Pacifica, as that's the internal
>>
>>code-name, and
>>
>>>it is under copyright by some other company... The proper terms are
>>>"AMD Virtualization technology" or "Secure Virtual Machine", the
>>>latter shortened to SVM.)
>>>
>>>As the processor requires a new motherboard, there's less
>>
>>likelyhood
>>
>>>for the trouble that some people have had with Intel
>>
>>systems where the
>>
>>>enabling of VT doesn't work or isn't available... As far
>>
>>as I know,
>>
>>>there are no Rev F processors that doesn't have
>>
>>virtualization, aside
>>
>>>from the Sempron models (which is one of the
>>
>>differentiating factors
>>
>>>between Sempron and the more expensive models - not sure what else
>>>besides the obvious cache size differences... Although I can't find
>>>any list of differences and there's currently no AM2
>>
>>docuementation on
>>
>>>the Web-site, besides the simple compare products pages,
>>
>>which don't
>>
>>>git much details, unfortunately).
>>>
>>>--
>>>Mats
>>
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