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Re: [Xen-devel] RE: [Xen-users] Release 0.9.2 of GPL PV Drivers for Wind

To: "Jun Kamada" <kama@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] RE: [Xen-users] Release 0.9.2 of GPL PV Drivers for Windows
From: "Emre ERENOGLU" <erenoglu@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:55:37 +0200
Cc: Stephan Seitz <s.seitz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, James Harper <james.harper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, xen-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Jun,

Could you please tell us if it will be possible to "export" a LVM Volume as a SCSI drive? Or maybe I shall ask, would it make sense? If not, is your pvSCSI implementation only efficient when there's an actual physical scsi device on the dom?

Emre


On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Jun Kamada <kama@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi James-san and all,

I'm planning to post the latest pvSCSI driver tomorrow evening.
Following are brief explanation of current design and implementation
status.

# I will describe same contents on tomorrow's mail. :-)

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As you know, after the post of pvSCSI driver to Xen community on Feb.
18th, we have gotten a lot of requests for improvements. We recognize
that the primary improvements, which affects the basic design of the
pvSCSI driver archtecture, are as follows.

1. Create a "virtual (SCSI) host" on Dom0, and attach it to
  appropriate guest domain.
2. Hot-plug a LUN to the virtual host on the Dom0 created by above 1.
  The LUN appears and becomes usable immediately on the guest domain.
  (By repeating this procedure, you can attach multiple LUNs to the
  guest domain.)
3. Support arbitrary SCSI ID mapping between physical host(s) on the
  Dom0 and the virtual host. (Physical ID "host:channel:target:lun"
  on the Dom0 can be mapped to arbitrary virtual ID
  "host:channel:target:lun".)
4. The above 1. to 3. causes needs for "munging" of request and reply
  packet on Dom0. (e.g. The LUN list in reply packet for REPORT_LUN
  command should be appropriately altered in order to report correct
  LUNs actually attached to the virtual host.)
5. Support the Netchannel2, new communication mechanism between Dom0
  and guest domain, in order to improve performance.


We have implemented mainly above 1. to 3.

As for 4., we are trying to develop a framework, which can support
various "munging" functions according to user requirements, device
specific functions and so on. (Ideally, the munging function can be
dynamically plugged in, and such like a bitmap table, which controls
invocation of the munging functions, can be specifiable by user.)
How ever, this is a very heavy work, so design and implementation are
still in progress.

And also above 5., we recognize that the source code is not yet
available, therefore current pvSCSI driver does not support it. If it
became available, we would like to replace current communication
mechanism with it.


Jun Kamada


On Wed, 28 May 2008 19:31:58 +1000
"James Harper" <james.harper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> >
> > James, if you can find some free time, could you please explain us how
> > this vscsi thing works and how to enable it? Would it also gain us
> some
> > performance, or is for serving other purpose?
> >
>
> pvSCSI was a series of patches posted by Jun Kamada on or around 18th
> Feb 2008 (look for subject "[Patch x/7] pvSCSI driver]. Jun was given a
> heap of feedback in response to those patches and went away to dwell on
> it. A recent post indicated that he would be releasing an updated
> version soon.
>
> xenscsi is a windows frontend driver to the pvSCSI backend driver, and
> allows (via the sg interface) raw scsi devices to be exported from Linux
> to Windows. I am now using it to do test restores of Symantec's Backup
> Exec backups using Symantec's IDR CD. Because the PV drivers are all WDM
> instead of WDF, it's easy enough to make a windows text mode setup
> floppy so you can activate the drivers via F6 when installing Windows.
>
> As for performance, I'm getting between 1-2GB/minute from the tape
> drive, this performance is probably limited by other factors, eg I'm
> still using the qemu harddisk drivers at that stage.
>
> If you had a scsi device (or sas/sata possibly) that you were willing to
> dedicate solely to one domain, xenscsi would allow you to do it. I've
> only tested it on tape drives at the moment. YMMV :)
>
> James
>
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