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RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] "lock cmpxch8b" and split locks

To: "Keir Fraser" <Keir.Fraser@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Puthiyaparambil, Aravindh" <aravindh.puthiyaparambil@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] "lock cmpxch8b" and split locks
From: "Nakajima, Jun" <jun.nakajima@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:21:26 -0700
Cc: "Koren, Bradley J" <Bradley.Koren@xxxxxxxxxx>, xen-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Vessey, Bruce A" <Bruce.Vessey@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Subrahmanian, Raj" <raj.subrahmanian@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Keir Fraser wrote:
> Nice try, but the first sentence of your quote applies only to
> ordinary (non-LOCKed) memory accesses. Section 7.1.2.2 states that
> "The integrity of a bus lock is not affected by the alignment of the
> memory field. The LOCK semantics are followed for as many bus cycles
> as necessary to update the entire operand."
> 
> I'm sure you get away with this in practise. 64-bit quantities are the
> only simple type that does not get naturally aligned in x86 C ABI.
> cmpxchg8b is a pretty rare instruction and most users would be very
> careful to ensure correct alignment in the cases it is used. Luckily
> it was easy for us to make the necessary changes too.

But we don't want to see unexpected #AC in ring0. Can check the bit 4
(Split-Lock Disable) and 8 (Suppress Lock Enable) of IA32_MISC_ENABLE
MSR (0x1a0)? You may have set the bit 4. You want to set the bit 8, not
bit 4.


> 
>   -- Keir
> 
> On 6 Oct 2005, at 22:00, Puthiyaparambil, Aravindh wrote:
> 
>> I spoke to our hardware engineers about this. They pointed me at
>> Section 
>> 7.1.1 of Volume 3 of the Intel Software Developers Manual.
>> 
>> "Accesses to cacheable memory that are split across bus widths, cache
>> lines, and page boundaries are not guaranteed to be atomic by the
>> Pentium 4, Intel Xeon, P6 family, Pentium, and Intel486 processors.
>> The Pentium 4, Intel Xeon, and P6 family processors provide bus
>> control signals that permit external memory subsystems to make split
>> accesses atomic; however, on aligned data accesses will seriously
>> impact the performance of the processor and should be avoided."
>> 
>> I hope this gives you a better picture of the situation.
> 
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